Turbo?

justinschmidt1 · Mar 9, 2013

Bro I'm not flaming or saying there's anything wrong with it lol.

I wish you the best of luck.

I said **** it too. Was set on going turbo. It was awesome while it ran. Sucked having issues though

And if only ever one was so cool to be slammed wingless and blown lol

Biggest mistake I made was using their **** tarded oil relocation setup. Make sure you get an AN line setup in there. There's an adapter plate that moroso makes I think that replaces all of it to straight An stuff

MustangChris · Mar 9, 2013

knock 'em dead! I cant wait to see the build thread!!!!!!

slow90coupe · Mar 9, 2013

Good info in here. This has definately turned me against a turbo 4.6. I will want a no hassle, ac, fully turning, no rubbing, no rattling, 100% dd friendly boosted setup. Turbo is definately not for me.

KillNThrill24 · Mar 9, 2013

I know JS but I think you get the point I'm trying to make lol. That's good to know about the oil tho I'll keep that in mind.

And 90.. my ac doesn't even work anyway. My car WILL be daily driven come hell or high water it will be on the road 7 days a week. And I will make sure it's tuned to be 100% streetable.

Sorry, I just get tired of the nay sayers man.

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justinschmidt1 · Mar 9, 2013

Sounds like a challenge

KillNThrill24 · Mar 9, 2013

O I'm sure it will be lol.

But I've always done shit the hard way. It's just in my nature

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slow90coupe · Mar 9, 2013

Prove us wrong! Good luck man.

KillNThrill24 · Mar 9, 2013

Well either I will or I'll fail miserably lol but either way play hard lose harder lol

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Magic · Mar 9, 2013

Research the turbo kits that are out there for the mod motors. There is better stuff out there than the On3 garbage. Sure its cheap for some thrills. Save up a little more and get something better. Avoid the potential pipes cracking, relocate this, that and the other and pipes hitting wheels and all that other horse shit.

If you have the skill or have some friends that can weld, fab up your own turbo kit. There are companies out there that will sell hot and cold sides separately.

Plenty of turbo Mustangs out there that have no problems. Its all in how you set the entire package up. Research, research, research, don't go by the "flavor of the day".

KillNThrill24 · Mar 10, 2013

Good call Magic. Unfortunately I do not know anyone capable of fabbing up a kit and the only other designated kit that I've seen for the mod motors is the Hellion which is more than double for the kit itself, not including any fuel mods or anything else. Sure it's probably more than double better but still.

I've researched lots I assure you, got in contact with turbo Mustang friends, and also the local shop that does a lot of the local guys cars. It's called big 3 racing in case anyone is in my area that would like to know them.

General census has been use the On3 kit and build off of it. I'm sure in the long run it would cost more but then again its that factor I mentioned earlier, being able to buy it little by little. If Hellion offered a system that I could buy individual parts I would gladly do it. The local shop said Hellion but they said it would probably be $6-7k before all is said and done which is insane. I'm sure it's true but I just can't swing that at this point in life. Maybe next Mustang lol.

I had started pricing out individual pieces but the problem is no one makes a designated intercooler kit. All I could do is get a ebay 3"and make it work. Which guys do it, I know, but I don't think I have the skill set required to make a universal item fit, at least not yet anyway. Then there's the issue of the hot side. No one (that I've seen) makes a designated hot side either. But I haven't researched the hot side as much since I was unsuccessful at the cold side.

If anyone knows a way I could effectively build my own it that would absolutely consider it

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justinschmidt1 · Mar 10, 2013

The base hellion kit is 5k I believe....after u spend all the $ fixing the on3 u might as well.buy hellion lol

My only beef is you're spending a lot of $ to be restricted by that stock bottom end vs the terrible 1500 dollar vortech that gets you the same power

KillNThrill24 · Mar 10, 2013

Lol. I never said it was terrible I just said it's not my thing. But like I said JS by time i save the 5k for the hellion it will be end of summer I'm sure. For me to save 5k straight up will take me forever. I don't know man.

And yes I know but the goal is to run turbo this year than maybe do a new motor (or bottom end at least) next year. At which point I can turn the boost up and surpass the vortechs power. That's the goal anyway. We all know how shit suddenly changes tho

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KillNThrill24 · Mar 10, 2013

I don't want to you think I'm un appreciative of your input about the vortech JS I'm just trying to say that I really don't want to run one. I have nothing against them just not my thing man.

I've always wanted a turbo. And when I found out I could turbo my Mustang I was like a little kid that found my weiner for the first time lol... and then when the eaton swap price kept rising and the KB fell through I said fukk it I'm going to do what I've always wanted to do. That's all I'm trying to say bud. For better or worse i'll make it happen

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KillNThrill24 · Mar 10, 2013

Alright haters..... Whatcha think about this? Although.. I'm not entirely sure what all the DIY includes but the kit at the very bottom is what caught my eyes. Yay or nay? I'd pick up there entire kit but they say its DOHC only..

http://modularmustangracing.com/

This seems like an affordable alternative from the On3

BTW thanks for moving this to its proper place of origin MC, I wasn't really sure where to put it lol

RichV · Mar 10, 2013

Since you're hell bent on doing this, make sure you research the kit. Don't just buy a ebay crap-tastic setup because it's cheap. Remember the age-old saying:

Fast - Reliable - Cheap *Pick 2 of the 3

Don't skimp on the turbo, that sucker spins at 100,000 RPM, needs to be bomb-proof to survive in that environment. Nothing more frustrating than getting all the bugs worked out of it, then the Turbo shells. When I upgraded my SVO to a T3/T4 Hybrid I went the cheap route, well I ended spending a few hundred bucks on ebay, then spent another $900 to get a quality turbo. I knew I found the right turbo shop when I went in with a box of turbo parts, the owner looked in it, and says 85 SVO right? I asked him, oh yea, what color is it?

One of out local tuners is a big Turbo guy, I'll ask what kits he's using. I know Hellion makes good stuff, but even he thinks they are too expensive. But I'd rather pay more for a complete kit that's been designed right, than a kit that you have to tweak. There is a lot more engineering and difficulty to a well working turbo setup.

justinschmidt1 · Mar 10, 2013

No worries bro. I understand. You're not hurting my feelings.

You should probably just suck it up and save up for better parts/kit if you're gonna do it.

Or you could go the complete opposite and do full on3 and see what happens haha.

I can hook you up with some tips and tricks yo help you with on3 if you go route.

Magic · Mar 10, 2013

KillNThrill24 said:
Alright haters..... Whatcha think about this? Although.. I'm not entirely sure what all the DIY includes but the kit at the very bottom is what caught my eyes. Yay or nay? I'd pick up there entire kit but they say its DOHC only..

http://modularmustangracing.com/

This seems like an affordable alternative from the On3

BTW thanks for moving this to its proper place of origin MC, I wasn't really sure where to put it lol

that $699 kit? Its only the hotside, not complete. But not a bad start.

The better single turbo 2v complete kits Ive seen, besides a dyno tune, (not sure on how available they are) are the PTK and Total Performance kits.

justinschmidt1 · Mar 10, 2013

Seems like those kits are 5500~

The hellion "tuner" kit is 5k
http://www.hellionpowersystems.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=134

Only difference is you dont get injectors and their tune I guess...but its a much better idea to go to a real dyno tuner for the tune.

It seems like the hellion kit comes with everything you need, good parts, k member/a arms/ coil over.

Just seems like hellions customer care would be the best out of everyones.

For what you are trying to do the 62mm turbo they give you would be perfect for now...no reason to run anything bigger with your goals.

You will have virtually no lag and awesome mid range torque/power with that turbo.

But it really comes down to what you wanna do....you really gotta start to think about what you're doing though.

After you spend 3k on the on3 setup what happens when you need to upgrade the waste gate, BOV, and turbo in the future?

Like I said before, sure you can wing it and go for the cheapest possible route, but in the long run, especially if you plan on building the motor and making more power you will most likely end up upgrading at least the turbo and waste gate.

KillNThrill24 · Mar 10, 2013

Well after some more researching it looks like you guys are right. Why skimp out and have issues rather than do it right the first time... question is should I replace the heads on my car and put it back together and start driving it again or wait months for me to get everything then rebuild it all? The manifolds with the heads on the engine will be a real beotch.. No? It does get better mileage than my Jeep, like almost double lol.

Then I can start putting money aside and have it built MAYBE by MW. If not it will definitely be ready by next season. Then that also means I can run Hellion or build my own kit. Tho the Hellion comes complete with everything I'd need.... What do you guys think? I'm I thinking more rational now lol?

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