Went to the track...new times.

[1996slowstang]

For my npi car on a 100 shot with gears and pullies, is 13.7 good?

Brenton

Kinda depends on the kit...cause some kits 100 shot is not 100 hp at the wheels....more like 70 ive heard....


its not bad but still room for improvement...for your mods I would say 13.7 is a decent time...but with drag radials and some practice you could definately see low 13s.

To put things in perspective my friend has an 04 gt 5 speed with a vortech, 8 psi, 4.10s, drag radials...made 360 at the wheels.

Me, my buddy, and the owner all ran between 13.3 and 13.4 @ 107 in this car...I dont knoe if we all suck at drivng or my tracks prep is shit
. nitto drags dont hook worth a shit.

Could be alot of things elevation,temp,track condition,driver,etc.

 

[justinschmidt1]

For my npi car on a 100 shot with gears and pullies, is 13.7 good?

Brenton

Kinda depends on the kit...cause some kits 100 shot is not 100 hp at the wheels....more like 70 ive heard....


its not bad but still room for improvement...for your mods I would say 13.7 is a decent time...but with drag radials and some practice you could definately see low 13s.

To put things in perspective my friend has an 04 gt 5 speed with a vortech, 8 psi, 4.10s, drag radials...made 360 at the wheels.

Me, my buddy, and the owner all ran between 13.3 and 13.4 @ 107 in this car...I dont knoe if we all suck at drivng or my tracks prep is shit
. nitto drags dont hook worth a shit.

Could be alot of things elevation,temp,track condition,driver,etc.

I dont know...my NPI runs 12.7-12.8 with the same 60 foot at the same track...

Its harder to drive a 5 speed faster at the track...his car makes puts more power down and pulls me up top...but I still run over a half a second faster on Street tires and trap 3-5 mph higher through the auto.

This is also on street tires VS his drag radials....

and I have a 3500 stall so theres a huge room for improvement when I can afford some slicks.

With that said with some better tires and practice behind the wheel his car should be able to pick up over a half a second.

 

[1996slowstang]

I dont know...my NPI runs 12.7-12.8 with the same 60 foot at the same track...

Its harder to drive a 5 speed faster at the track...his car makes puts more power down and pulls me up top...but I still run over a half a second faster on Street tires and trap 3-5 mph higher through the auto.

This is also on street tires VS his drag radials....

and I have a 3500 stall so theres a huge room for improvement when I can afford some slicks.

With that said with some better tires and practice behind the wheel his car should be able to pick up over a half a second.
[/quote]What kind of power does your car make.

 

[justinschmidt1]

I dont really know....never been dynoed.

My car runs .5+ than my friends car with 360 at the wheels....my car can beat my friends 405 wheel hp supra....

From a roll tha 04 gt will pull a little cause NPI is a turd up top.

Judging from Blownstanger97's numbers on here I should be around him...we have the same setup except he runs a pound or two more boost and a vortech blower instead of procharger.

I would estimate somewhere around 340-350.....My car went sideways into third gear yesterday, which is about 80 mph with the auto...its got a little power I guess but I always could use more.

 

[1996slowstang]

I dont really know....never been dynoed.

My car runs .5+ than my friends car with 360 at the wheels....my car can beat my friends 405 wheel hp supra....

From a roll tha 04 gt will pull a little cause NPI is a turd up top.

Judging from Blownstanger97's numbers on here I should be around him...we have the same setup except he runs a pound or two more boost and a vortech blower instead of procharger.

I would estimate somewhere around 340-350.....My car went sideways into third gear yesterday, which is about 80 mph with the auto...its got a little power I guess but I always could use more.

Thats awsome I would love to have that kind of power.

 

[duff daddy]

just do a pi swap, ported heads cams and fuel up grades and be wehre im at NA and be in the 12's ....

 

[justinschmidt1]

just do a pi swap, ported heads cams and fuel up grades and be wehre im at NA and be in the 12's ....

really depends on personal preferance...

Only way I would go n/a over boosted is if you go with those new trickflow heads and a badass set of cams...otherwise your probably gonna be left wanting more very soon.

I could have went n/a, but would have ended up spending around the same amount and would be making like 300 rwhp...

Just seems stupid to ever stay n/a with a 4.6.

 

[duff daddy]

im na with just over 300hp at 12.8 now gotta do botom end and get rid of the stock suspension and it should drop accordingly

 

[1996slowstang]

just do a pi swap, ported heads cams and fuel up grades and be wehre im at NA and be in the 12's ....

Thats all you have done to your car?

 

[justinschmidt1]

according to him his race weight is 3168, and he is pi swapped with ported heads and cams with a bunch of other bolt ons on v6 rims, 16 lb rims, with slicks.


He ran 12.861 at 106.75 with a 1.8 60 foot

He has a lot of stuff done and he is driving it good.

My point is my boosted NPI still runs faster and will definately run a good bit faster once I get my slicks and any kind of suspension work.

Really, boosted 4.6s generally will be faster than n/a

I ran 12.71 with a 2.0 60.....even knocking my 60 down to 1.8 like his should knock my 1/4 down to 12.3 or 12.4


Im not trying to hate on his car just comparing boosted vs. n/a route.

 

[1996slowstang]

according to him his race weight is 3168, and he is pi swapped with ported heads and cams with a bunch of other bolt ons on v6 rims, 16 lb rims, with slicks.


He ran 12.861 at 106.75 with a 1.8 60 foot

He has a lot of stuff done and he is driving it good.

My point is my boosted NPI still runs faster and will definately run a good bit faster once I get my slicks and any kind of suspension work.

Really, boosted 4.6s generally will be faster than n/a

I ran 12.71 with a 2.0 60.....even knocking my 60 down to 1.8 like his should knock my 1/4 down to 12.3 or 12.4


Im not trying to hate on his car just comparing boosted vs. n/a route.

I would rather stay n/a but to get where duff daddy is I would have to spend like 7 grand and that is hard to do when you have a wife and 3 kids. looks like I will awlays be slow

 

[justinschmidt1]

according to him his race weight is 3168, and he is pi swapped with ported heads and cams with a bunch of other bolt ons on v6 rims, 16 lb rims, with slicks.


He ran 12.861 at 106.75 with a 1.8 60 foot

He has a lot of stuff done and he is driving it good.

My point is my boosted NPI still runs faster and will definately run a good bit faster once I get my slicks and any kind of suspension work.

Really, boosted 4.6s generally will be faster than n/a

I ran 12.71 with a 2.0 60.....even knocking my 60 down to 1.8 like his should knock my 1/4 down to 12.3 or 12.4


Im not trying to hate on his car just comparing boosted vs. n/a route.

I would rather stay n/a but to get where duff daddy is I would have to spend like 7 grand and that is hard to do when you have a wife and 3 kids. looks like I will awlays be slow

Well, it depends on whether or not you can do the work yourself...You could probably do a pi swap with a nice set of cams and long tubes for a couple grand and should make close to 300 rwhp with a tune

horsepower costs money any way you look at it....its gonna cost a couple grand either by pi swap or some kind of power adder

 

[duff daddy]

I dont really care what runs what b/c 13.7's and 14.1s mean nothing to me anymore

oh my ownage!!!!!! lol damn ppl from maine are mean this time of year of fyi we need to meet up i need info on your rear end ASAP!!! get at me on aol

 

[Venom351R]

I dont really care what runs what b/c 13.7's and 14.1s mean nothing to me anymore

oh my ownage!!!!!! lol damn ppl from maine are mean this time of year of fyi we need to meet up i need info on your rear end ASAP!!! get at me on aol

I will, Ive been gone the past few days doing the christmas thing. Up in central Maine now and heading back down south today for the second half of christmas. I'll be on AIM later today/tonight. What do you mean as far as info on the rear end?

 

[1996slowstang]

How do you get your car down to 3168?

 

[duff daddy]

according to him his race weight is 3168, and he is pi swapped with ported heads and cams with a bunch of other bolt ons on v6 rims, 16 lb rims, with slicks.


He ran 12.861 at 106.75 with a 1.8 60 foot

He has a lot of stuff done and he is driving it good.

My point is my boosted NPI still runs faster and will definately run a good bit faster once I get my slicks and any kind of suspension work.

Really, boosted 4.6s generally will be faster than n/a




you motha.... haha im just kidding, yea, sage to pi heads stage 2 comp cams, STOCK maf, intake and other bolt ons, stock rear end 373 gears. if you have a stock motor, and you go blower first you will get more out fo it. i have a kid that has stock internals with a vortech s trim on his bullitt and hes in 11.6x hes an exceptional driver. my race weight was no front seat no back seat, no spare and 1/2 or less then fuel. the only benift i saw in going na first is i needed to do a pi swap, ie intake manifold cracked so i had a decision to make.

na a little less power more money GOOD BASE
blown, more powr less money good start but still a "stock motor"

I ran 12.71 with a 2.0 60.....even knocking my 60 down to 1.8 like his should knock my 1/4 down to 12.3 or 12.4


Im not trying to hate on his car just comparing boosted vs. n/a route.

 

[justinschmidt1]

according to him his race weight is 3168, and he is pi swapped with ported heads and cams with a bunch of other bolt ons on v6 rims, 16 lb rims, with slicks.


He ran 12.861 at 106.75 with a 1.8 60 foot

He has a lot of stuff done and he is driving it good.

My point is my boosted NPI still runs faster and will definately run a good bit faster once I get my slicks and any kind of suspension work.

Really, boosted 4.6s generally will be faster than n/a




you motha.... haha im just kidding, yea, sage to pi heads stage 2 comp cams, STOCK maf, intake and other bolt ons, stock rear end 373 gears. if you have a stock motor, and you go blower first you will get more out fo it. i have a kid that has stock internals with a vortech s trim on his bullitt and hes in 11.6x hes an exceptional driver. my race weight was no front seat no back seat, no spare and 1/2 or less then fuel. the only benift i saw in going na first is i needed to do a pi swap, ie intake manifold cracked so i had a decision to make.

na a little less power more money GOOD BASE
blown, more powr less money good start but still a "stock motor"

I ran 12.71 with a 2.0 60.....even knocking my 60 down to 1.8 like his should knock my 1/4 down to 12.3 or 12.4


Im not trying to hate on his car just comparing boosted vs. n/a route.

You can do a lot with a good 60 foot and driver...theres a guy with a full bolt on 01 GT who just got some stg 2 cams I believe...his car makes around 300 rwhp and he runs low 12s...I believe he ran 12.3 or so but he is cutting like 1.6-1.7 60 foots and power shifting every gear

 

[duff daddy]

oh shit yea, by no means am i a good driver, my car catches wicked gear lash when i try to power shift, im just shifting as fast as i can with the clutch nd not really leaving super hard with the stock clutch at 120k on it lol so i def have a lot of room for a better time i just need a good solid trans to rape on lol

 

[1996slowstang]

What do you consider power shifting

 

[Venom351R]

power shifting is when you dont let off the gas when you shift, keep right in it and shift as quick as you can into the next gear. Very bad idea on a T-5 Transmission. Not sure how the 96-98 trannys like it, prob not much better.