Why do I require 93 Octane fellas?

[sn95jones]

Not really lol, if it's got a tune then it's saved me about $300 from having to do it myself

 

[ttocs]

Well not without a tuner at least....im saying he cant just go turn the distributor.


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Great, thanks for that clarification I am sure G36 appreciates it then since he brought the dist up?

sorry it just seems funny that we are being corrected on something we never said.

 

[g36 monkey]

Ha Scott, most people say "Just adjust the timing" like it's some easy thing to do. 96 and up requires a tune.

Thats what I was getting at

 

[ttocs]

If you do it through a tuner it sounds easier then what we would need to do. I mean you get to sit in the car and select XXX degrees right?

 

[g36 monkey]

No, you have to have a tune file written, unless you have your own software. Either way, it's a pricy thing. It cost me about $800 to get my intial tune done because I had to buy a $400 tuner. To do it myself, would have cost me about $800, because I would have had to buy the tuner, and then tuning software, and then pray I didn't blow my car up. Now to tune on the dyno is only about $400, howver Justin at VMP does remote tunes for much cheaper.

 

[acomaelkhunter]

educate me please. how do you advance the timing. take out the computer and have a chip programmed or plug into a programmer that you can adjust? can anybody post a link to a programmer? good info here.

 

[D3VST8R96GT]

educate me please. how do you advance the timing. take out the computer and have a chip programmed or plug into a programmer that you can adjust? can anybody post a link to a programmer? good info here.

There are chips and there are tuners

Chips plug onto the actual ecm

Tuners go through the obdII port

Sct makes several tuners
Livewite
Xcal3
And they even have a wireless setup with an iphone app

Sct also has a 4 position chip

I would stick with sct products ..... its getting harder to find people who don't tune on sct and you can find them on americanmuscle.com




The D3V

 

[ttocs]

educate me please. how do you advance the timing. take out the computer and have a chip programmed or plug into a programmer that you can adjust? can anybody post a link to a programmer? good info here.

If you mean SPECIFICALLY on your 302, that is with the distributor/timing light but they are talkin modular motors here. One of the many big differences in the two motors.

 

[acomaelkhunter]

thank ttocs. not for my 95 5.0(lifting collar tips) but just to know and help out our non-post browzers with some info!!!! we had to swap out my computer and send to in to be programmed with a chip, then the computer wouldnt accept more mods, so we talked to Dave's Mustang and swapped out the 95 computer for a programmed 93 (chipped). although we can easily adjust the timing, the 95 computer will not always except the mechanical upgrades.

 

[g36 monkey]

educate me please. how do you advance the timing. take out the computer and have a chip programmed or plug into a programmer that you can adjust? can anybody post a link to a programmer? good info here.

There's lots of videos on how to advance the timing on a 302 on youtube.

You'll need a timing light. Some of these guys can tell you how many degrees over TDC you can go without risking detonation. Will help wake up the car a lot!

 

[sn95jones]

Maybe that's why I feel like my car is 5X faster than my 96' gt was LOL

 

[g36 monkey]

well you've got gears. Idk, I didn't notice a huge difference going from 87 to 93, but I know I don't wanna go back haha

 

[acomaelkhunter]

i have advanced as much as 17 degrees on high octane fuel without detonation or backfires and it ran like a bat outa hell..but once it got hot it was hard to start. lots of fun. but i actually wanted to know more about the 4.6 motor

 

[sn95jones]

I meant having the tune on the car LOL, but I'll tell you what I love shifting iinto 4th in my car, the rpms don't drop near as much as they would on my last Mustang, tall ass gears LOL

 

[acomaelkhunter]

I meant having the tune on the car LOL, but I'll tell you what I love shifting iinto 4th in my car, the rpms don't drop near as much as they would on my last Mustang, tall ass gears LOL

what gears you running/

 

[sn95jones]

3.73s

 

[justinschmidt1]

There is options to advance the timing a bit without actually getting a custom tune with an SCT Xcal

Im pretty sure I had the option to advance total timing up to 4 degrees and there was the option to advance timing from 0-2k rpms 2k-4k rpms and 4-6k rpms I believe as well.

Also, the xcals come with generic 93 octane tunes which obviously already have the timing advanced.

I wouldnt waste the money on a custom tune unless you have more than bolt ons.

 

[justinschmidt1]

Great, thanks for that clarification I am sure G36 appreciates it then since he brought the dist up?

sorry it just seems funny that we are being corrected on something we never said.

Cool story bro.

I dont even know what you're babbling about.

Who was correcting anyone and who is "we"? lol

 

[ttocs]

justin -

set your timing to 10 degrees and put in cheap fuel....

us 302 owners, he and I = we, that suggested checking the timing but never have once said anything about the dist until we were corrected.

Happy?

 

[justinschmidt1]

How would you suggest he check the timing ?