2v boost and other ?'s

[97LSxGT]

been looking around for a Vortech or Procharger set up for NPI 2vs. all i see are for 99-04's. what would yall reckon would be needed to put on a npi car? i figured at least a bracket or two..any ideas?

^^also thought about just puttin a pi motor in my car..lol..



for teskid shortblocks. are the cranks any stronger then a 2vs?


also seen coyote rods will fit in a 2v motor. true or no?




its almost tax return time..so crunchin numbers..

 

[justinschmidt1]

been looking around for a Vortech or Procharger set up for NPI 2vs. all i see are for 99-04's. what would yall reckon would be needed to put on a npi car? i figured at least a bracket or two..any ideas?

^^also thought about just puttin a pi motor in my car..lol..



for teskid shortblocks. are the cranks any stronger then a 2vs?


also seen coyote rods will fit in a 2v motor. true or no?



its almost tax return time..so crunchin numbers..

The only difference is the brackets...I would just buy a used vortech head unit then go to superchargersonline and buy the bracket and w/e you need from them. You can usually piece together a kit for like 1500 bucks.

Not sure about the coyote thing but not sure why you would do that over a set of forged rods an pistons.

And I would assume the crank in the teksid shortblock is no better than ours.

I have a procharger bracket if you want to buy it. Its piece of metal .lol

 

[97stanger]

honestly, you shouldnt even waste your time if you are planning on putting a blower on a non pi h/c/i car. You wont even be at 300rwhp and would hate to see you spend your money for gains like that. I vote first do bolt ons, PI intake at a minimum than maybe start looking at boost

 

[justinschmidt1]

He is right. ^ The NPI is a sad little motor lol. The pi intake alone is a BIG help.

 

[97stanger]

dude before I put my blower on...every bolt on in the book including longtubes, midpipe, catback, udp's, cai, throttle body/plenum and custom tune put down 202rwhp lol

 

[justinschmidt1]

dude before I put my blower on...every bolt on in the book including longtubes, midpipe, catback, udp's, cai, throttle body/plenum and custom tune put down 202rwhp lol

Bolt one are worthless on a npi unless its a pi part haha. My bolt on npi with pi intake made good power with boost but I was pushing 12 psi too
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[vermilion]

in my opinion, the only bolt ons worth a shoot in the breeze with a NPI was gears and Nitrous. when i had a lightened front end and forged motor it was wayyyy more powerful then the NPI.

 

[twovalveterror]

cobra teskid's have an eight bolt forged crank, vs. our six bolt cast crank. not sure on the mk VIII cranks.

 

[vermilion]

if im not mistaken, the mark 8 is 8 bolt.

 

[RockstarMentality]

'scribed

 

[vermilion]

i'll go back and dig through my notes and books. ive had 3-4 cast cranks from different 4.6s and couldnt tell off hand which was which.

 

[twovalveterror]

I think all of the teskids did have forged cranks. I don't think anything changed until the WAP, when they put six bolts in the autos. not sure if the six bolt in the WAP's was forged or not though, as I just recently learned of it.

 

[97LSxGT]

who said i was puttin it on a npi car? lol i aint gon try and push air thru npi heads..i was gonna get a set of heads off my buddy and have em worked and throw some custom bumpsticks on em..just dont wont a weak ass motor..but ive heard you can get the rods cheap thats why i was talking about the coyote rods..just tossing around ideas and ive heard the VIIIs are 6bolt..idk..lol tossin up ideas thats all..been tryin to sale my car and gettin nothing but ran around so screw it..mine as well boost it haha

 

[97LSxGT]

oh nvm i see now..forgive me..i was half asleep at the time lol..i was talkn more of if i didnt do the whole teskid block blah blah blah and jus did forged rods, pistons and pi heads/cams..sorry for the confusion

 

[97LSxGT]

honestly, you shouldnt even waste your time if you are planning on putting a blower on a non pi h/c/i car. You wont even be at 300rwhp and would hate to see you spend your money for gains like that. I vote first do bolt ons, PI intake at a minimum than maybe start looking at boost

intakes done..love it..lol now its to finish off the pi swap

 

[97stanger]

the reason we responded like we did is because you specifically asked about putting boost on a non pi motor...read your first post pal

 

[justinschmidt1]

Lol right... you specifically said npi

 

[LilRoush]

honestly, you shouldnt even waste your time if you are planning on putting a blower on a non pi h/c/i car. You wont even be at 300rwhp and would hate to see you spend your money for gains like that. I vote first do bolt ons, PI intake at a minimum than maybe start looking at boost

Just throwing this out there: my NPI car made over 300 rwhp with 6 psi (stock cams).

 

[justinschmidt1]

Just throwing this out there: my NPI car made over 300 rwhp with 6 psi (stock cams).

lol, details?

bone stock NPI? what kind of boost? centir? turbo? PD?

Maybe you were just on a generous dyno cause what your saying doesnt really make much sense.

Lets assume a stock NPI makes 190 rwhp, 5 speed.

to see a 50% gain you would need roughly 8 psi,(14.7 psi is standard PSI in our atmosphere so 14.7 psi would be roughly 100% gain in power in a boosted car) and a 50% gain would be 95 rwhp there and would still put you 285 rwhp, and still doesnt take into account the fact that a supercharger probably eats up 30-40 rwhp to spin which would knock you down to 250-260 rwhp.

Not saying it didnt happen, but I am saying it doesnt make much sense from a logical stand point using what we know about our world and how engines work and that dyno must have been EXTREMELy generous for you to see 300 rwhp on 6 psi.....cause it seems like a stretch even on 10 psi.

 

[97LSxGT]

Like I said half asleep..i work third and get about 4 hrs of sleep durin the day..sorry for the confusion..i was,plannin on droppin a vortech on it till I get thr he ads etc for a lil extra oomph..but wasnt plannin on racin it or anything..cause like yall said..npi sucks lol..doesnt matter which way u look at it..sorry fellas..but if u dont mind justin I may pm u n ask a couple questions.