Another Gear Thread :D

[KillNThrill24]

When's the blower going in btw? Make sure to post up when you do get it in. And a video
Saw a silver new edge GT today that rolled up on me wanting to race, after I down shifted he didn't want none of snake. Stock wheels and lowered, it was sexy af.

Haven't got it yet lol but believe me when it goes it I'll make a build thread finally LOL. And I'll get some vid's too man! That's how mine looks lol stock wheels and lowered! I think I would have had a little fun with you tho. No harm in racin a fellow Mustang guy and losing haha

Dude go 3.73's and dont look back. The modular motor cars love the gear. Even with the blower on. You're going to blow off first no matter what gear you go with with that kinda power. Then its time to move to suspension upgrades to get that power to hook. You want 3.73's Ill trade you rear ends right now. My car NEEDs the 4.10's. She likes to rev.

Lol my man it wouldn't be a fair trade to you. I could trade you gears (mine only have about 1500 on them) but the rest of my rear end has 140k. And yes yes I know they like the gear lol but like I said I daily mine in the spring/summer/fall and end up on the highway a lot so I would really like to have more gear for the highway. I think the 3.55 would give me more gear on the highway. I thought I'd love the 4.10's. And I do, but only around town. Shit just going to work and back I'm at like 2500rpm in 5th lol. I just want a lil gear back

Me personally i would put 3:93 gears in it. A 3:73 your gonna get more top end and lower rpms . A 4:10 or 4:11 Gear you will take off faster and run higher rpm ( red light to red light gears ) I wouldnt worry about 1st gear I would worry about the ones you make some speed in . Have owned all of these

I dunno I think the 3.93 is too much for me too. Like I said I daily my car. And if it was an around town daily I wouldn't car I would just leave my 4.10's in but since I take the highway's and back roads a lot I think I need to go lower

 

[chris91]

I have a buddy with a brand new set of Ford 3.55's if you want. I think he only wants like $100 and that includes an install kit. Granted thats plus shipping.

 

[KillNThrill24]

I'll you up on that once I make the big purchase in a couple weeks here. That's a hella good deal!

 

[RichV]

Shifting may change a little from n/a since you'll have a different powerband, but RPM/speed will be the same whether n/a or boosted.

Just a questions of traction. I had 3:08s on my ProCharged Saleen, you could still light them up in pretty much any gear. And it did great on the highway for MPG.

That thing was a beast on the highway, you'd drop a gear to 4th at 70 and hammer it, when the clutch actualy grabbed it felt like a sledgehammer hit you in the chest. You'd get a woody watching the speedo climb from 70 to 120 in like 4 seconds. That was a fun Stang.

 

[lobird91]

3.55s

 

[rz5.0]

Guess its only me but if do 3.27 no more than 3.55.. I feel like the more power the less gear you need but that's just me..

 

[the.greg]

As a kenne bell owner, I can tell you I'd do 3.55s. I have 4.10s and it too much gear for sure, eventually I plan on having 3.55s installed.

Also fyi a kenne bell is not a roots blower, but a twin screw. I look forward to seeing this happen!

 

[the.greg]

The best part of a twin screw is that the powerband is much lower than a centri although at a dragstrip its almost all high rpms anyway. That is what makes the kenne bell such fun on a street car. Even if you aren't in the best gear/rev range, just hammer it and you already have power.

 

[the.greg]

I don't buy into the don't fear the gear crap. Its one thing on a n/a car, but with a forced induction car the power makes up for the torque multiplication. Yes you will be blowing the tires off regardless if you want to, but at the same time you want to stay in the powerband as long as possible.

Plus with higher gears and a blower it hits hella hard and all of a sudden you are boosting at 4krpms then the tires break traction and you immediately are at redline. Its not ideal. I think 3.55s would be perfect.

Plus on a stock engine 2v you can only rev to what 6200? No point in having 3.73s or 4.1 if you cant rev it higher than that like you can in a 4v or possible a built 2v.

 

[ProKiller]

i vote 3.55s or just stick with what you have (3.27). i've been rocking 3.73s and love them but have thought about stepping down to 3.55s but not worth the investment to me.

 

[chris91]

The modular cars love the high gears. Its a known fact. Go do some reading on corral. I had the 3.73's in my car when it was basically bone stock and they made the world of difference too.

 

[the.greg]

The modular cars love the high gears. Its a known fact. Go do some reading on corral. I had the 3.73's in my car when it was basically bone stock and they made the world of difference too.

Because they lack torque stock. When you have a twin screw you no longer need high gearing.

On a stock car yes, gears are the best money you can spend.

 

[chris91]

You just contradicted yourself. First you said they are pointless on a stock 2v and now you're saying they are the best bang for the buck???

I know quiet a few Terminator owners who swear by 3.73's. A couple with over 500hp. Have you yourself dealt with higher gears in a blown modular or just going off of hearsay?

 

[rz5.0]

Because they lack torque stock. When you have a twin screw you no longer need high gearing.

On a stock car yes, gears are the best money you can spend.

/\/\/\this

 

[KillNThrill24]

Thanks guys. Yeah when I put my 4.10's in the motor was bone stock and the gearing had been the best upgrade I had done. But now that I'm moving to a twin screw (pardon my lack of correct terms Greg lol) I do think that you guys bring up a good point that if the tires break loose at 4k, I'll be at rev limiter in seconds. Plus the immediate shifting just gets old.

I was kind of under the impression that staying in the power band longer would be better, which is why I was thinking maybe my 3.27's wouldn't be a bad idea to try out when I get this all installed. Rich brings up a good point that with the lower gears (like his 3.08's) that you can still have break away power and good mileage. Maybe I'll just throw the 3.27's in for now, see how I like it, then if I decide I want a bit more (3.55's) I can pick some up when I get a new diff and 31 splines. Or if I get the 3.55's from Chris just throw those in and be done lol

 

[the.greg]

And another thing I'd like to add since the mention of first gear being useless has come up a lot. Its about feathering the gas and learning to slip out the clutch. Its not easy and sometimes you break lose, but just pedal it out or short shift into second. Atleast that does the trick for me. You can't just floor it in any higher powered car on the street and expect to not spin, unless maybe you have a awesome drag oriented suspension and slicks . Idk but atleast that is my experience and how I launch on the street in first gear.

If I'm trying to spin tires, I can dump the clutch faster and shortshift and burn the tires off til halfway through third somewhere around 60mph. Its ridiculously fun, but I don't get the chance to do it very often.

 

[the.greg]

You just contradicted yourself. First you said they are pointless on a stock 2v and now you're saying they are the best bang for the buck???

I know quiet a few Terminator owners who swear by 3.73's. A couple with over 500hp. Have you yourself dealt with higher gears in a blown modular or just going off of hearsay?

I was referring to 3.73 or 4.1 gears being useless specifically on a twin screw 2v, not a stock 2v. I specifically said on a n/a 2v they are great, not so much on a twin screw. I believe that you run out of revs too quickly. As you said the termi guys love gears, you know why? Its because they can rev to 7krpms! A stock engine 2v with a kb shouldn't be revd that high!

I have a kenne belled 4v with 4.10 gears. Yes I know what I'm taking about. I owned a 2v before that.

 

[the.greg]

Thanks guys. Yeah when I put my 4.10's in the motor was bone stock and the gearing had been the best upgrade I had done. But now that I'm moving to a twin screw (pardon my lack of correct terms Greg lol) I do think that you guys bring up a good point that if the tires break loose at 4k, I'll be at rev limiter in seconds. Plus the immediate shifting just gets old.

I was kind of under the impression that staying in the power band longer would be better, which is why I was thinking maybe my 3.27's wouldn't be a bad idea to try out when I get this all installed. Rich brings up a good point that with the lower gears (like his 3.08's) that you can still have break away power and good mileage. Maybe I'll just throw the 3.27's in for now, see how I like it, then if I decide I want a bit more (3.55's) I can pick some up when I get a new diff and 31 splines. Or if I get the 3.55's from Chris just throw those in and be done lol

This is pretty much 100% what I'm saying haha. You want to maximize the time in your powerband. A 2v with a kb thats gonna be about 3500-6k rpms I'd think. Theres no need for extremely high gears for such an application. Plus your top speed in 4th(depending on tire size) is only gonna be about 112mph at 6200rpms.

here is a link to a gear calculator that may help you with your decision. I'm sure you will be happy with whatever you decide, I'm just trying to be helpful bro
http://www.paladinmicro.com/pmicro.php?frm=SpeedInGearCalc.htm

 

[KillNThrill24]

I appreciate the help man that's why I made the thread lol. But dam according to that chart I never should have taken my 3.27 out lol 2500rpm at 80 is perfect for me

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[1997GT4.6]

Haven't got it yet lol but believe me when it goes it I'll make a build thread finally LOL. And I'll get some vid's too man! That's how mine looks lol stock wheels and lowered! I think I would have had a little fun with you tho. No harm in racin a fellow Mustang guy and losing haha

Haha I'll be looking forward to it. I'd love to see a silver NE GT with a blower and stock look rolling. That's an awesome look dude, lowered and stock looking, I have a thing for that lol. Exactly! And that's the first time I have pulled my car out of the garage in a month, and I've been wanting to run a NE GT or S197 GT and nobody bites lol. Its not like I'm SC or anything. I had an S197 GT roll up on me to the same day, and after he saw the badges he backed off :/

The greg is spreading wisdom. Do 3.55's man you won't regret it.