BBK: The good and bad?

[nemoxii]

I'm getting ready to purchase a BBK CAI, 70mm TB, and a Flowmaster American Thunder cat-back system. I've haven't been able to find a whole lot in the way of reviews, so I'm just looking for some thoughts here. Anyone running a BBK CAI and love it or hate it? What are some reasons NOT to purchase any one the above parts. Any input would help. My motor is currently all stock, and is going to be staying that way for some time. Eventually I'll probably break down and do a full PI head and Intake swap, but for now, I'm only looking for a little more throttle response and a fuller sound. Thanks for any input.

-Adam

 

[reivaxtorres]

personally, i would say go with the 75mm TB instead of the 70mm one. i ran mine like that for awhile and it worked out pretty good. the throttle response was really noticeable after that.

if what you want it throttle response, when you start modding it some more, look into getting light weight rotational parts, such as u/d pullies, aluminum flywheels, and an aluminum driveshaft. just my $.02

 

[nemoxii]

Originally I was planning a 75mm TB along with a Trick Flow upper plenum. My main concern is losing some low end power with this set up on an otherwise stock engine. I think I'll probably steer clear of the U/D pulleys. Light weight flywheel was something I over looked, any suggestions on brands? How hard is it to change a flywheel? As for aluminum driveshaft, I couldn't find one online anywhere for an Automatic, I suppose I could probably have one made locally, but I'd rather put my money toward the inevitable P.I. swap. Thanks for the info.

-Adam

 

[AaRoN]

Originally I was planning a 75mm TB along with a Trick Flow upper plenum. My main concern is losing some low end power with this set up on an otherwise stock engine. I think I'll probably steer clear of the U/D pulleys. Light weight flywheel was something I over looked, any suggestions on brands? How hard is it to change a flywheel? As for aluminum driveshaft, I couldn't find one online anywhere for an Automatic, I suppose I could probably have one made locally, but I'd rather put my money toward the inevitable P.I. swap. Thanks for the info.

-Adam

For now I'd just go with an intake. UPR makes a similar intake to the BBK but it's a 3.5" pipe. It's called the "Bigmouth". Other than that, I'd save for the PI swap. Nothing else is really gonna do a whole lot really. Maybe if you can find a good deal on a 70-75mm t/b than you can go with that too.

 

[gt96stang]

Don't waste the money and go straight for PI swap or supercharged..

 

[voidfinger]

Metal CAI's are crappy... They suck up heat and it hurts the air more than helps it... Looks good though.

 

[reivaxtorres]

Originally I was planning a 75mm TB along with a Trick Flow upper plenum. My main concern is losing some low end power with this set up on an otherwise stock engine. I think I'll probably steer clear of the U/D pulleys. Light weight flywheel was something I over looked, any suggestions on brands? How hard is it to change a flywheel? As for aluminum driveshaft, I couldn't find one online anywhere for an Automatic, I suppose I could probably have one made locally, but I'd rather put my money toward the inevitable P.I. swap. Thanks for the info.

-Adam

i never felt like i lost any torque down low with my 75mm t/b and plennum combo. up to you, but yeah, like everyone else says, you arent going to notice a decent power increase with any of these parts, but you will notice throttle response. as for the flywheel, i didnt notice that you have an automatic. automatics dont have flywheels, they have flex plates and you cant really do much about those, they are light enough as it is. look into doing a J-mod tho.

for the driveshaft, a 5 speed one will work, you will just need to swap over the transmission yoke (the part that goes into the transmission).

 

[nemoxii]

Thanks for the tip on the Driveshaft. Are there any other mods that need to happen or can I just go to a junkyard, grab the part I need, and swap it in?

As for the BBK CAI, I was worried about the metal tubing as well. What are some better options? I've looked alot at the K&N FIPK, but I dont see how you can pull cold air from under the hood. Do the K&Ns work better than the BBK, or should I look for something more like the JLT?

I hear you guys with the PI swap, but I want to stay around $700 dollars. I may just wait and save for the PI, but I'm gonna buy the bolt-ons either before or after the swap anyway, so for now I'll probably just stick with the bolt-ons. I may beg my wife to just let me buy the PI kit from Parkway Performance on ebay. 1400 bucks shipped dosnt seem to be that bad of a deal.

Thanks again for the input.

-Adam

 

[Jrgunn5150]

Thanks for the tip on the Driveshaft. Are there any other mods that need to happen or can I just go to a junkyard, grab the part I need, and swap it in?

As for the BBK CAI, I was worried about the metal tubing as well. What are some better options? I've looked alot at the K&N FIPK, but I dont see how you can pull cold air from under the hood. Do the K&Ns work better than the BBK, or should I look for something more like the JLT?

I hear you guys with the PI swap, but I want to stay around $700 dollars. I may just wait and save for the PI, but I'm gonna buy the bolt-ons either before or after the swap anyway, so for now I'll probably just stick with the bolt-ons. I may beg my wife to just let me buy the PI kit from Parkway Performance on ebay. 1400 bucks shipped dosnt seem to be that bad of a deal.

Thanks again for the input.

-Adam

Do the JLT or leave it stock, IMO. And the UPR is POO, IMO. I have alot of opinions, lol.

 

[AaRoN]

Thanks for the tip on the Driveshaft. Are there any other mods that need to happen or can I just go to a junkyard, grab the part I need, and swap it in?

As for the BBK CAI, I was worried about the metal tubing as well. What are some better options? I've looked alot at the K&N FIPK, but I dont see how you can pull cold air from under the hood. Do the K&Ns work better than the BBK, or should I look for something more like the JLT?

I hear you guys with the PI swap, but I want to stay around $700 dollars. I may just wait and save for the PI, but I'm gonna buy the bolt-ons either before or after the swap anyway, so for now I'll probably just stick with the bolt-ons. I may beg my wife to just let me buy the PI kit from Parkway Performance on ebay. 1400 bucks shipped dosnt seem to be that bad of a deal.

Thanks again for the input.

-Adam

Do the JLT or leave it stock, IMO. And the UPR is POO, IMO. I have alot of opinions, lol.

Really?! I like my UPR..

 

[reivaxtorres]

Thanks for the tip on the Driveshaft. Are there any other mods that need to happen or can I just go to a junkyard, grab the part I need, and swap it in?

As for the BBK CAI, I was worried about the metal tubing as well. What are some better options? I've looked alot at the K&N FIPK, but I dont see how you can pull cold air from under the hood. Do the K&Ns work better than the BBK, or should I look for something more like the JLT?

I hear you guys with the PI swap, but I want to stay around $700 dollars. I may just wait and save for the PI, but I'm gonna buy the bolt-ons either before or after the swap anyway, so for now I'll probably just stick with the bolt-ons. I may beg my wife to just let me buy the PI kit from Parkway Performance on ebay. 1400 bucks shipped dosnt seem to be that bad of a deal.

Thanks again for the input.

-Adam

any more mods for the driveshaft? nope, dont even need to go to the junk yard. you can use the yoke on ur stock driveshaft and just swap it over to the aluminum driveshaft.

as for the intakes, i have the k&n FIPK and i like it, no complains about it. it has the little heat shield to block most of the engine heat away from the filter. dunno how good of a job it does, but like i said, i like it.

 

[Jrgunn5150]

My effing filter fell off one day, like I was always worried it would, in spite of cranking it as tight as possible, and checking it religously. Some locktite on the clamp was suggested to me after the fact. I prefer the PCV of the JLT though, that metal really does get pretty hot.

 

[nemoxii]

Thanks Reivaxtorres, I think I'll probably look into the FRPP driveshaft. I misunderstood about the yoke, I thought you were saying I need the yoke from a manual. Its all very clear now.

I've heard that from a couple of people now, Jrgunn. I really hate the Idea of my filter falling off, especially here in Oklahoma with all the damn dust. I think I might just go with the K&N. I've relied on them for over 7 years on my motorcycle(R.I.P.)so I dont see why I couldn't count on them for my car. Does the JLT fit under our stock strut brace?

The full P.I. swap isnt out of the question yet, still need to bring it up with my wife :santa_undecided:
-Adam

 

[xsoutherngun89x]

Originally I was planning a 75mm TB along with a Trick Flow upper plenum. My main concern is losing some low end power with this set up on an otherwise stock engine. I think I'll probably steer clear of the U/D pulleys. Light weight flywheel was something I over looked, any suggestions on brands? How hard is it to change a flywheel? As for aluminum driveshaft, I couldn't find one online anywhere for an Automatic, I suppose I could probably have one made locally, but I'd rather put my money toward the inevitable P.I. swap. Thanks for the info.

-Adam

i never felt like i lost any torque down low with my 75mm t/b and plennum combo. up to you, but yeah, like everyone else says, you arent going to notice a decent power increase with any of these parts, but you will notice throttle response. as for the flywheel, i didnt notice that you have an automatic. automatics dont have flywheels, they have flex plates and you cant really do much about those, they are light enough as it is. look into doing a J-mod tho.

for the driveshaft, a 5 speed one will work, you will just need to swap over the transmission yoke (the part that goes into the transmission).

im prolly just uninformed on this, what the hell is a J-Mod? lol

 

[Jrgunn5150]

The JLT will fit under the strut brace.

The J-mod is the best shift kit ever, google it, then do it, if you have an auto.

 

[xsoutherngun89x]

naw, 5 speed T-45 here.

 

[voidfinger]

The JLT will fit under the strut brace.

The J-mod is the best shift kit ever, google it, then do it, if you have an auto.

lol i never felt really comfy with drilling into a tranny so i just got a transgo. I think they are pretty good right?

O and nemoxii, if you are looking for a PI swap... I might could help you out I got some PI heads, Cams, Intake, FRPP Head Swap Kit that i will let go for around 700. The heads need some new valve seals though since they have been sitting for a couple years now. I just had to get a new tranny so i'm in dept and need the money lol.

 

[nemoxii]

Voidfinger, I may take you up on that offer. What condition are the parts in? milage, ect? Does the intake have the aluminum crossover? What kind of shipping cost to Oklahoma City? Let me know, 700 is a deal I wont lightly pass up.

On another note, anyone used the Livernois PI intake kit? It seems a bit pricey to me, but that with a set of PI cams might just be the middle road solution I'm looking for. Any thoughts?

Thanks,
Adam

 

[voidfinger]

lol on this site everyone is going to tell you to do the pi intake and cam swap. But why not go on and do the whole thing lol. Anyway, The intake is good, it has the aluminum cross over and it is currently on my car so its already got the temp sensor tapped in there. The cams and heads are windsor style. The heads have around 70k on them. Really good condition, but like i said you would need to put some new valve seals on there since they have been sitting. Other than that the heads are in sweet condition. The cams have like ... well i'm not sure but they look less than 20k miles. Nice clean things. The frpp head swap kit is in the box still. just opened to check for everything. I have no clue what shipping would be since the parts are at my shop about 2 hours away, since i'm at school its going to take a while to check. But PM me your address and all and i'll check for shipping asap. thanks

 

[Jrgunn5150]

Voidfinger, I may take you up on that offer. What condition are the parts in? milage, ect? Does the intake have the aluminum crossover? What kind of shipping cost to Oklahoma City? Let me know, 700 is a deal I wont lightly pass up.

On another note, anyone used the Livernois PI intake kit? It seems a bit pricey to me, but that with a set of PI cams might just be the middle road solution I'm looking for. Any thoughts?

Thanks,
Adam

Eff the LIvernois kit, save yourself 300 bucks and use silicone, or do the whole swap so you can run some real cams in a year or so, and it will sound cooler.