Kenne Belle!

[Venomous96Cobra]

Okay now I know they make a kenne belle charger for 96-98 cobra's that mount's in the air intake location, exactly where the termi chargers mount! and I know they make a quality product! So my question is why is it that I have not seen alot of people with this charger! :dontknow: is the vortech a better product? :confused1: I would just assume that the kenne belle is much easier to install according to what I have read! any input would be appreciated... but I think I will be going with this charger unless I hear some serious horror stories...

 

[dutch]

That's because the Kenne Bell for our B-head cars doesn't have an option for an intercooler. Which severly limits the amount of power you can get from them. People solve this mostly with meth though.

I see a lot of KB 96-98 cobra dyno at anywhere from 320 to 360 rwhp, which is pretty low compared to the vortech and procharger units.

I'm still going with a Kenne bell though, because my car is daily driver streetcar only and I bet the KB is way more fun on the street then a centri, even with less hp.

 

[Venomous96Cobra]

Dutch I think you are confused! with 93 octane which is what I run anyway the 8psi kit at 7 psi will give me roughly a 135hp gain :la: that's takes me from stock 305 to roughly 440 hell im not like most guys here :dontknow: I would be happy at 400 hp on a daily driven street car!!! So I guess I know where my income tax refund is going toward in roughly 5 months :la:

Anyway here is the info from the Kenne Belle website on the supercharger for our application... :headbang:

The ?96-?98 Cobra is a great car but the 4V lacks low and mid range punch. That?s why Ford rpm ?staged? or ?delayed? opening all 4 inlet ports simultaneously. It hurt low end torque. The Kenne Bell Kit gives the ?96-?98 4.6 that much needed HP and torque boost in low and mid range - and plenty on the top end. Gears help but hurt fuel economy and increase engine wear. And centrifugal superchargers make good top end power but don?t supply the much needed higher boost for low and mid range performance. This is a powerful, quiet, flexible kit that really brings the car to life. Standard Kit is 6 psi (91 octane) or 8 psi (94 octane) with plenty of room to grow to 11 psi without intercooling (see ?Octane?).
? +135HP/ +123 ft lbs. torque (108HP / 98ft lbs rear wheel @ 7 psi).
? Twin Screw Design. More Efficient than the Eaton / Roots type. (Cooler air charge temp and less HP to drive)
? Looks Factory. Mounts on top of engine.
? Includes Kenne Bell "Open House" hi flo 20HP manifold. (Eliminates restricitive stock manifold).
? Whisper Quiet. No embarassing, annoying noise.
? No external oil lines or drilling holes in pan.
? No other changes necessary.
? Works with stock gears.
? No boost lag.
? 60-80 degrees cooler air charge temperature and requires 10-16 less HP to drive than roots style.
? No other engine or transmission changes required. Everyhting included.
? Not totally dependent on rpm for boost as with centrifugals.
? Fits under stock hood.
? Bolts to stock lower manifold.
? No intercooler required.
? BOOST-A-PUMP included. Only activates under boost.
? OPTIMODULE (chip) also included.

*300-650HP range. Varies with boost level.
A whopping increase of 135HP (440 vs 305) and 123 ft lbs torque (426 vs 303). This one will turn anyone's head around. "Top engine" design mounts supercharger where it belongs - on top of the 4.6 - not on the side or in between the radiator and water pump. Included with the kit is the new Kenne Bell ultra high flow "open house" manifold. No manifold will ever flow more air then this beauty. Near full rated boost at a mere 2400 RPM gives the little 280 cubic incher needed low end torque - AND MORE!

 

[MustangChris]

"no intercooler required" means "no intercooler available" in Corporate Sales Lingo.

the termis have an intercooler located under the blower, whereas the Bheaded cobras do not. this limits the output of the blower.

vortecs are more common because they have the intercooler (thats why the kenne bell is easier to install... just bolt the damn thing to the motor. no pipes, no plumbing, nothing major) and thus more "potential."

I think for a DD, you will be happy with either option. id buy whichever one is cheeper. preferable the KB because its an easier install.
If you want to push your car to the limits, youll need a power adder with an intercooler, W/M injection on the KB, or N2O injection on the KB.

 

[JDwhite98gt]

You are in no way going to make 400 to the tire...maybe, maybe,420 to the crank. People don't usually run this kit because it is not efficient, it creates very high IAT's. That in turn causes your PCM to kill your power. "+135HP/ +123 ft lbs. torque (108HP / 98ft lbs rear wheel @ 7 psi)." In the real world you will make 380 RWHP Tops. Dont buy a product becasue it's easier to install (...Chris... :BangHead Kenne Bell is a good company but they skimped on this product. Would be fun for a DD? Sure, but only at low boost levels and at a very, very safe tune...which will also hurt your power potential. I think you will be dissapointed in the long run. I would go for a product like Procharger or vortech, get an intercooled kit and then have 400 rwhp to the tire SAFELY

 

[vermilion]

w/m on top of intercooling is even better and fuel efficient. safer on the engine with less detonation. with kenne bells you often have to do the cooling mod.

 

[MustangChris]

You are in no way going to make 400 to the tire...maybe, maybe,420 to the crank. People don't usually run this kit because it is not efficient, it creates very high IAT's. That in turn causes your PCM to kill your power. "+135HP/ +123 ft lbs. torque (108HP / 98ft lbs rear wheel @ 7 psi)." In the real world you will make 380 RWHP Tops. Dont buy a product becasue it's easier to install (...Chris... :BangHead Kenne Bell is a good company but they skimped on this product. Would be fun for a DD? Sure, but only at low boost levels and at a very, very safe tune...which will also hurt your power potential. I think you will be dissapointed in the long run. I would go for a product like Procharger or vortech, get an intercooled kit and then have 400 rwhp to the tire SAFELY

after spending thousands of dollars and countless man hours installing junk that was "supposed" to be easy... i dont mind telling him to take the easy path for a 350 RWHP DD... ...

as i said, if he wants to push any kind of envelope with his car, he will need a cooling option on the KB. such as w/m, n2o, IC... this adds cost, and difficulty in installation. if all he wants is a fun DD that makes cool sounds, id still suggest the KB because of its easier install.

i also mentioned cost, whichever one is more cost effective, but im not going to repeat my entire first post. lol.


I say go for the KB if you can find one at the price you like, if you are just looking for a fun DD.

 

[rb30dett]

I plan on purchasing the Kenne Bell kit for my Cobra. I understand the importance of an intercooler but it should not be needed under low boost, high octane. I plan on doing a swap into a Factory Five MKIV roadster so any added power in a 2300 lbs car will be extreme.

 

[got5.0]

meth+ KB= win. the whine, torque, instant boost, great mid range, etc. If you're not going to the 1/4 mile track everyday and wanna have an insane street car, go for a KB. peak numbers aren't what they're cracked up to be.

 

[dutch]

I'm not knocking the KB in any way, I plan on getting one myself.. But the RWHP numbers I've seen from SVTP members are VERY dissappointing compared to centri's on our cars. Some even as low as 320-330 rwhp. I like KB's website and their tech articles, but those numbers they are giving are way too high, unless you get it custom tuned with meth.

Let's keep things clear, you WILL NOT make anywhere near 400rwhp with just the KB kit on a mostly stock engine. 350rwhp and you should be very happy!

 

[MustangChris]

i think KB just buys cars to blow up to push them to the max to dyno them... "+100 RWHP!!!" well, at 101 we blew up... so lets call it a safe 100... lol. on a safe tune that wont compensate reliability, the massive numbers KB crunches out probably arent all that realistic.

 

[Chances50]

there is no way id run a Non intercooled KB. to much heat even with water meth.

 

[Cobracarlo]

Also the KB for B-headed cars has no boost bypass on it like the 03 cobras do. Fun street car=yes. but honestly unless ur pushing one to the limits boost wise you cant even hear them on b-headed cars at least not in all the videos, so if your wanting sound its out.

For the price of a KB kit new or most of them used even you can do a eaton swap make more power with the stock pulley and have room to upgrade down the line.

**Just a note on PD cars u want the IAT after the blower like on any blown car. Well on this KB since it has no intercooler it heats the IAT up fast sometimes even pushing it past its max 260 degree and will trip ur check engine lite cause the comp thinks there is a serious problem**

I got that off another site where a member has one.