should i go stroked or boosted?

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cam/fast said:
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Everyone knows belts are made to hold up your pants, not add more power to your car.

As for turbo cars being "finicky", I've got 3 close friends with turbo Mustangs. Dave's 92GT is stock intake to oilpan with an explorer intake with a Hellion kit and a 70mm on it, it has no problems. Luke has a 92 LX witha 331 dart block with a B&G kit on it, 76mm turbo, no problems with it. Luke's lil brother Joshua has a '01 GT with a Hellion kit, 62mm turbo, only mods other than the turbo kit is a catback and Accufab plenum. Joshua is 17 years old and drives the car daily. It makes a little over 450whp/500tq. The only way I could see them being "finicky" is if you had some crackhead tuning it. If you have it done by someone with experience that knows what they're doing, you won't have any problems.

Replace your factory headstuds with some ARP pieces and a good headgasket when you boost it and you won't have any problems I'm more than sure.

Im all for turbos and the power it can provide...no doubt turbos will make more power than superchargers

However....for daily driving and the simplicity of it...i would go with a Vortech V-2 as they are very reliable and quiet. No matter how well the car is tuned, turbos produce a lot of heat and also the coolong system has to be upgraded. All of this adds up to a lot of money at end.

Im sure your friends spent a lot on those setups...specially that 4.6

Luke's setup is by-far the most expensive. Mainly because he bought one turbo setup and wasn't happy with it, so he sold it and bought the B&G kit.

Dave has ~$1500 in his complete turbo setup. Thats EVERYTHING (manifolds,pipes,fmic,turbo,bov,wg,etc)
 

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For a DD definetly go with the blower. Upgrade the fuel system and bolt on a blower. Don't know why you wouldn't want a supercharger. Alot cheaper and will make plenty of power.

Plus with gas likely hitting $4/gal soon you'll want to keep the relatively decent gas mileage the stockish 302 gets. Obviously when you stomp on it your gas mileage will go to hell but when you're not into boost the mileage will stay relatively good.
 

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I would not to do any of the above for a DAILY DRIVER....really. Making your daily driver your project is NOT a good idea. I know from experience. A QUALITY turbo setup is going to make more power obviously but it is NOT going to be cheap....at all. H/C/I and a tune you can do for under $2500 if you shop around but it isn't going to make the power that a turbo setup will. Turbo setup with a mild tune for daily driving and "kill" mode for fun time is gonna cost a grip but will make more power and can be done reliably...again, if you got the duckets.
 

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The only way I could see them being "finicky" is if you had some crackhead tuning it. If you have it done by someone with experience that knows what they're doing, you won't have any problems.

Replace your factory headstuds with some ARP pieces and a good headgasket when you boost it and you won't have any problems I'm more than sure.


Your kidding right? :rollinglaugh:
 

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LAFENATU said:
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The only way I could see them being "finicky" is if you had some crackhead tuning it. If you have it done by someone with experience that knows what they're doing, you won't have any problems.

Replace your factory headstuds with some ARP pieces and a good headgasket when you boost it and you won't have any problems I'm more than sure.


Your kidding right? :rollinglaugh:
Why would I be kidding? There are hundereds of cars coming off the showroom floor with turbo systems on them, are they finicky? No. So if you were to install a turbo kit onto a N/A car, and do it properly, there is no reason it would be finicky either. www.TurboMustangs.com has hundereds, maybe thousands of members who have used the FACTORY HEADERS from they're 302 Mustangs and used them to make a HOME MADE turbo kit. This is what Dave, 92GreenGT on this forum, originally had on his car. It had a few small issues, but it wasn't the cars fault, it was his, because instead of taking it to someone who had experience tuning cars like his, he tried to do it at home himself. He sold the DIY kit he had made, and now has a Hellion kit on it as I mentioned. Also, he no knows how to tune his car properly. Guess what?


It isn't finicky.
 

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Most of the cars on turbomustangs spend more time on jackstands than they do out driving. Not to mention the fact that when you put another 150-200hp into a car not designed for it with a power adder things are GOING to break. Getting a set of ARP studs and new headgaskets is kind of counterproductive to the bolt on and go mentality of a supercharger. And just those things will not make a bulletproof forced induction vehicle. Again, lots more horsepower than stock=things breaking and you having to spend alot of money to replace them with aftermarket parts.

I do agree that if its your only car then its not good to make into a project ESPECIALLY if you're gonna be driving it alot since gas prices are going through the roof as we speak. How about just doing some bolts ons first and then going from there? I used a piece of my college loan refund to buy a beater so I could tinker with my Cobra and not have to worry about it as my daily driver. My beater is a 94 civic del sol. Its got faded paint, a crappy sound system, its loud and rattles but damn if it isn't reliable and I can get upwards of 400 miles out of 10 gallons of 87 octane. I vote get a wicked beater and then mess with your stang.
 

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If the car is tuned right you wont have any "finky" problems with a turbo. I had a Paxton Novi 2000 on my 95 GT that was tuned and ran great and I have 2 friends that put HP turbo kits on their Fox's and both were self tuned and run great.


For a Daily Driver IMO id stick with stroking it out but that's just how I feel its your money but there are just less "potential" problems with stying N/A VS Being Boosted. There is a guy on stangnet right now that's having a huge headache w/ the fitment of the header on his HP Turbo kit ( its an SN95). Id just stroke it and call it good.
 

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As for the turbo vs. blower arguement....

BOOST is BOOST. If one it finicky...the other will be too...HOWEVER. It may be easier to get a good tune out of a blower b/c of the fact that the amount of airflow is based SOLEY on engine RPM where as a TURBO's airflow is based on RPM, Throttle Position, and Load on the motor....so there are alot of variables. A turbo motor can make 3lbs of boost at 5,000rpms or 30lbs of boost at 5,000rpms....depending on where on the loud pedal your foot is and what gear you're in so there is MORE to tuning a turbo motor than just putting it in 4th and planting your foot to the floor.
 

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