The 2009 New Camaro Prototype Spotted Out For Testing

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You guy's can call it ugly all day long, just prepare to get owned, period. And god help us all if they do a Zr1 engine in an SS version like a little birdie said want to...

It's sad, but Ford's need FI to be competitive stock to stock, and wouldn't you know, them air whistlin thingy's bolt onto Chevy's too? It took 3 years after it's death for Ford to match a stock Z28. Lame.

I say, why make excuses and call names? Call on Ford to step up and quit letting us be every LS1 owning douchebag's bitch.
 

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Its still an ugly pos. Who cares how fast it is gonna be. Its gonna end up extinct just like the past camaros lol
 

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from what I read. the camaro is going to be more expensive than the mustang. Thats part of what killed it last time.
 

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A bigger part of what killed it, since it was only 3-4k over in price, was the fact that Chevy, never, ever advertised it. Not in print, not on TV, nothing. The last Camaro ad I ever saw came out in 1993 with the first 4th gen, and that was it.

Not to mention they were under contract to build them all in BFE Canada. GM killed, don't fool yourselve's, I was at GM when it died officially, if not publicly. They had no intention of replacing it as early as 1999...
 

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sʇǝɟ said:
Mmkay. But scions are still being made...

Who cares? Your not buying stock in the freaking company are you? It looks alright and if its fast its cool with me. I would rather have an ok looking car that hauls ass than a better looking car that is a slow piece of shit. Too many guys gotta rely on their car to get chicks.....
 

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who cares is right, I could care less if you personally would want a car that looks ok but is fast. I could care less about your oppinion too, to me this car looks like ass and I wouldn't buy one. Oh you would? Greeeaaat.
 

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5.0wned said:
sʇǝɟ said:
Mmkay. But scions are still being made...

Who cares? Your not buying stock in the freaking company are you? It looks alright and if its fast its cool with me. I would rather have an ok looking car that hauls ass than a better looking car that is a slow piece of shit. Too many guys gotta rely on their car to get chicks.....

That's exactly the thing though. In the 80's Stang's looked goofy compared to Camaro's, like overgrown Tempo's or something... The IROC was long, low, sleek, pretty nifty car. The Stang would walk all over one though, in just about any form. And yet.... The Fbody far and away outsold the Stang...

Part of the 5.0's appeal was that they ALL HAD THE SAME MOTOR, every single 5.0, until the 93 Cobra, had the exact same motor as any other V8 optioned car that year. You could spend 12k on a LX and get the same motor as Mr. Big's optioned up, leather, convertible GT. Made it alot easier for everyone to go fast, and alot easier for the aftermarket to get some part's out to the masses.

Now meanwhile, down the road in Warren, GM was screwing the pooch. Their ad campaign was strong, but their engineer's... confused. You could get a 305 in carb'd, TBI, or TPI, all in the same year! 350's, but only with auto's. It's hard to find two Camaro's with the same drivetrain, unless it's a weak/suck 305 TBI/700r4 combo. Didn't matter though, the car sold on the basis of it's looks.

Fast forward ten year's, SN's creep along the street, living in mortal fear of the mighty LS1. A simple fact is, an LS1 Camaro can crap on an SN from a height so high, you'll think God himself just kicked your ass.

But man those SN's are sexy... They look great, underpowered, confused engineer's, handle like crap, but they look good. And they outsold the Fbodies in a big way...

Wonder why? I'll tell you why, people only want to look/sound fast. Period. They'll act like they are car guy's, they'll go to Woodward, or the dragstrip and stand in front of their rides, but they ain't never, ever gonna do more than a shifter, catback, and cold air kit.

People who push the boundaries, are looking to make double the factory rating, looking to knock 1/3 off the factory 1/4 mile time, want to cut 15 seconds off their time at Mid Ohio, these people are the lunatic fringe. Most people just want to look cool. And that's fine, to each his own, but it is what it is.

The Camaro will sell based on novelty alone, simple as that. The reason it looks the way it does? GM got complaint after complaint the GTO looked too bland, so this is more aggressive.

Personally, I think all the "retro" car's can suck my balls, starting with the beloved Mustang. Ford built that car in 1968, get a damn new idea. But then, I feel the same way about cover songs, and movie remakes...
 

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Looks like an ole monte carlo, and whats with the corvette look alike taillights? Todays engineers need to step it up.. Im with ya on the whole retro idea, ITS BEEN DONE! Even with the new mustang, a Rousch or Saleen look great, but stock gt is very lacking in my opinion. As far as performance, we've been lacking compared to gm for a while. They're cryin 400hp for this thing, but who knows until it finally comes out...
 

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sʇǝɟ said:
who cares is right, I could care less if you personally would want a car that looks ok but is fast. I could care less about your oppinion too, to me this car looks like ass and I wouldn't buy one. Oh you would? Greeeaaat.

Damn someone got up tight quick. I never said you care. I heard scion was up 2% today better jump on that shit. :crazy2:
 

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Your lucky I can't come up with a witty comment! Lol. I didn't mean to sound like a douche, Im just sick of hearing about who godlike this camaro will be
 

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