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Can someone explain why cleaning carbon out is going to make a measurable difference?
 

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when you get carbon build up it restricts flow from the intake and exhaust valves. By cleaning your carbon out of your car it make it run better and cleaner.
 

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My car had trouble idleing some times where it acted like it had some crazy huge lift cam in it, so I put seafoam in it. It didnt smoke and my car hasn't been doing the rough idle since so idk :dontknow: It all depends on who you ask I guess.
 

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I ran some through my car last year. Had the famous "smoke show", but I don't think it really improved anything as far as driving/throttle repsonse. Just my experience with it.
 

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JJhirsch said:
when you get carbon build up it restricts flow from the intake and exhaust valves. By cleaning your carbon out of your car it make it run better and cleaner.

So how is pouring Seafoam (a powerful solvent) into your intake different than gasoline (a powerful solvent)?

Also, you know what happens when you remove the oil from your cylinder walls while the engine is running? It's called washing down the cylinders. It's what happens when a car runs too much fuel through it. If you remove the hydraulic friction barriers between moving metal parts, bad things happen.

I've heard people have gained power power from a Tornado on their intake, a spacer on their throttle body, and adding ground straps to their engine blocks... I didn't believe any of that either.

Paul.
 

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Paul said:
JJhirsch said:
when you get carbon build up it restricts flow from the intake and exhaust valves. By cleaning your carbon out of your car it make it run better and cleaner.

So how is pouring Seafoam (a powerful solvent) into your intake different than gasoline (a powerful solvent)?

Also, you know what happens when you remove the oil from your cylinder walls while the engine is running? It's called washing down the cylinders. It's what happens when a car runs too much fuel through it. If you remove the hydraulic friction barriers between moving metal parts, bad things happen.

I've heard people have gained power power from a Tornado on their intake, a spacer on their throttle body, and adding ground straps to their engine blocks... I didn't believe any of that either.

Paul.

Sea foam is not even close to the same as gas it is a carbon cleaner is some way like throttle body/carb cleaner but 100% safe and easy.

Just because it is a powerful solvent doesn't mean it is the same. I wouldn't put paint thinner (powerful solvent) in the car because it isnt the same just because it is a powerful solvent.

It also seems you don't know a lot about motors because there is a little thing called piston rings that don't let oil above the cylinders unless the motor has lots of miles or not build correctly. so there isn't any kind of risk you speak of.

I don't get what you are talking about with the tornado or spacer or what ever you are talking about because that has nothing to do with this thread. kind of like when people thing they gain power from a spark plugs or wires.
 
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I like the different opinions voiced here. The negatives (possible oil leak after) have deterred me from doing it. Iam putting a 1/3 in the fuel system though. Have not cleaned the fuel system since last summer...
 

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JJhirsch said:
Paul said:
JJhirsch said:
when you get carbon build up it restricts flow from the intake and exhaust valves. By cleaning your carbon out of your car it make it run better and cleaner.

So how is pouring Seafoam (a powerful solvent) into your intake different than gasoline (a powerful solvent)?

Also, you know what happens when you remove the oil from your cylinder walls while the engine is running? It's called washing down the cylinders. It's what happens when a car runs too much fuel through it. If you remove the hydraulic friction barriers between moving metal parts, bad things happen.

I've heard people have gained power power from a Tornado on their intake, a spacer on their throttle body, and adding ground straps to their engine blocks... I didn't believe any of that either.

Paul.

Sea foam is not even close to the same as gas it is a carbon cleaner is some way like throttle body/carb cleaner but 100% safe and easy.

Just because it is a powerful solvent doesn't mean it is the same. I wouldn't put paint thinner (powerful solvent) in the car because it isnt the same just because it is a powerful solvent.

It also seems you don't know a lot about motors because there is a little thing called piston rings that don't let oil above the cylinders unless the motor has lots of miles or not build correctly. so there isn't any kind of risk you speak of.

I don't get what you are talking about with the tornado or spacer or what ever you are talking about because that has nothing to do with this thread. kind of like when people thing they gain power from a spark plugs or wires.

You dun goofed.
 

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been using seafoam for awhile not a problem one on any of my vehicles of friends that i have done it to. now in saying i use it i only use the seafoam intake spray just makes it easier than finding a vac line on some vehicles. can say it does help clean the carbon out if done right always follow instructions to a t as previously stated. i dont trust putting it in the oil or tank but know it works in the intake for everyone who doubts it youtube search it. http://www.seafoamsales.com/sea-foam-spray.html this is the one i use, there are many companys out there that make similar intake sprays. seafoam just happens to be one of them. if you doubt it try it!
 

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JJhirsch said:
Paul said:
JJhirsch said:
when you get carbon build up it restricts flow from the intake and exhaust valves. By cleaning your carbon out of your car it make it run better and cleaner.

So how is pouring Seafoam (a powerful solvent) into your intake different than gasoline (a powerful solvent)?

Also, you know what happens when you remove the oil from your cylinder walls while the engine is running? It's called washing down the cylinders. It's what happens when a car runs too much fuel through it. If you remove the hydraulic friction barriers between moving metal parts, bad things happen.

I've heard people have gained power power from a Tornado on their intake, a spacer on their throttle body, and adding ground straps to their engine blocks... I didn't believe any of that either.

Paul.

Sea foam is not even close to the same as gas it is a carbon cleaner is some way like throttle body/carb cleaner but 100% safe and easy.

Just because it is a powerful solvent doesn't mean it is the same. I wouldn't put paint thinner (powerful solvent) in the car because it isnt the same just because it is a powerful solvent.

It also seems you don't know a lot about motors because there is a little thing called piston rings that don't let oil above the cylinders unless the motor has lots of miles or not build correctly. so there isn't any kind of risk you speak of.

I don't get what you are talking about with the tornado or spacer or what ever you are talking about because that has nothing to do with this thread. kind of like when people thing they gain power from a spark plugs or wires.

Yeah, you're wrong....

Do you know what the cross hatch pattern on a cylinder wall is for? So the oil has something to stick too allowing the piston and ring combo to be LUBRICATED as it moves up and down. You run a SOLVENT...ANY DAMN SOLVENT through the motor that will wash the oil off the cylinder wall...guess what? You are now POLISHING the cylinder wall. Same thing will happen with an excess rich condition. Gas or what ever the hell you add will get PAST the piston rings and into the oil and break it dow. Add into that any carbon from the intake that may have allegedly "broken free" and that junk act like a polishing compound. Thusly, "washing down" or polishing your cylinder walls, loosing compression, eventually creating excess blow by, oil consumption and loss of power. Sounds to ME you read a bottle of product or about it on the internet and buy off on it. IF you think there is a fluid or additive out there that is going to magically rebuild your motor with out "rebuilding it"...you're wrong. If you think Paul and I are lying...google that shit
 

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ryclef331 said:
JJhirsch said:
Paul said:
JJhirsch said:
when you get carbon build up it restricts flow from the intake and exhaust valves. By cleaning your carbon out of your car it make it run better and cleaner.

So how is pouring Seafoam (a powerful solvent) into your intake different than gasoline (a powerful solvent)?

Also, you know what happens when you remove the oil from your cylinder walls while the engine is running? It's called washing down the cylinders. It's what happens when a car runs too much fuel through it. If you remove the hydraulic friction barriers between moving metal parts, bad things happen.

I've heard people have gained power power from a Tornado on their intake, a spacer on their throttle body, and adding ground straps to their engine blocks... I didn't believe any of that either.

Paul.

Sea foam is not even close to the same as gas it is a carbon cleaner is some way like throttle body/carb cleaner but 100% safe and easy.

Just because it is a powerful solvent doesn't mean it is the same. I wouldn't put paint thinner (powerful solvent) in the car because it isnt the same just because it is a powerful solvent.

It also seems you don't know a lot about motors because there is a little thing called piston rings that don't let oil above the cylinders unless the motor has lots of miles or not build correctly. so there isn't any kind of risk you speak of.

I don't get what you are talking about with the tornado or spacer or what ever you are talking about because that has nothing to do with this thread. kind of like when people thing they gain power from a spark plugs or wires.

Yeah, you're wrong....

Do you know what the cross hatch pattern on a cylinder wall is for? So the oil has something to stick too allowing the piston and ring combo to be LUBRICATED as it moves up and down. You run a SOLVENT...ANY DAMN SOLVENT through the motor that will wash the oil off the cylinder wall...guess what? You are now POLISHING the cylinder wall. Same thing will happen with an excess rich condition. Gas or what ever the hell you add will get PAST the piston rings and into the oil and break it dow. Add into that any carbon from the intake that may have allegedly "broken free" and that junk act like a polishing compound. Thusly, "washing down" or polishing your cylinder walls, loosing compression, eventually creating excess blow by, oil consumption and loss of power. Sounds to ME you read a bottle of product or about it on the internet and buy off on it. IF you think there is a fluid or additive out there that is going to magically rebuild your motor with out "rebuilding it"...you're wrong. If you think Paul and I are lying...google that SH*T

LMFAO

Ry got to it before I did, and he is 100% correct.

Dude. Seriously. Ry and I are the two original tech moderators of this entire forum. Give us the tiniest bit of credit here.

Paul.
 

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Ry i never said Seafoam makes your engine like new all i am saying is that it does clean out carbon in your motor.

If what you say is even true as in it will polish inside you block and get in to your oil then so will gas.

so putting Seafoam in wont be any different then what a motor does to run already.
 

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*sigh*

Nevermind man. Apparently you don't understand what Ry is saying...

An overly rich condition (i.e. excessive fuel) will wash the cylinder walls down. So will pouring a powerful solvent into your motor. There is no snake oil in the world that will do one damn thing for a worn motor. The idiots who buy this stuff and "feel" the difference are experiencing the placebo effect (precisely as was previously alluded to) because they bought into the hype. Don't listen to what marketing people tell you about performance.

"Cleaning out carbon" isn't going to do a damn thing either.

Paul.
 

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Lmao, I am still amused at the attack on Paul ;p

Silly mistake

And Paul beat me to what I was going to say.

I appreciate the input here, won't be using sea foam no mo hehe.
 

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JJhirsch said:
Ry i never said Seafoam makes your engine like new all i am saying is that it does clean out carbon in your motor.

If what you say is even true as in it will polish inside you block and get in to your oil then so will gas.

so putting Seafoam in wont be any different then what a motor does to run already.

You just said exactly what I did....and somehow...managed to still disagree...an excessively RICH condition...i.e. not all the fuel gets burnt or properly atomized when introduced to the combustion chamber thusly "wetting" down the cylinder walls, thinning out the oil, and effectively polishing the cylinder walls. A properly running (i.e. NOT RICH) motor will atomize and burn all the fuel introduced to the combustion chamber and cylinder, and NOT wet down the walls and NOT thin out the oil and NOT fuck up your cylinder walls...am I clear enough?
 

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