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either buy a kit from the place that is making supercharger kits out of m112's off cobras, or 4v heads, front accesory setup, the whole shabang. You need a 4v to make it work.
 

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oh yea, and m112's are extremely inefficient for the most part, i wouldn't waste my time. Go saleen supercharger if you want a roots type. However, your supercharged NPI would be about as fast as my 5.0 with a fairly simple HCI and home boy port job by me, which i'm fairly decent at doing. It's money man that kills 4.6's, not the lack of power. If they were as cheap as 5.0s lord knows we'd all be 500+ sn95 forum.. lol
 
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rgs said:
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i thought the blower sat right on top of the heads.

right on the lower intake

i didn't think 4.6's had a lower intake.

would you classify like a
M-9424-P46.jpg

as a lower intake for a 4.6? i thought it took the place of that.
 

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realitygt said:
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i thought the blower sat right on top of the heads.

right on the lower intake

i didn't think 4.6's had a lower intake.

would you classify like a
M-9424-P46.jpg

as a lower intake for a 4.6? i thought it took the place of that.

a roots blower takes the place of that intake....


You will need to get some pi parts to run consistent 13s...just the way it is man.

Bolt ons dont do much for npi cars...actually, they might not do anything.

gears, drag radials and good driving can probably get you low 14s...but anything more and you will need pi intake atleast...o/r mid pipe and long tubes could probably get you close.

IMO, to be consistent mid 13s with that car you will need gears and a PI swap.
 
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i guess i'll be the first to disprove u guys. i'm gonna make this car fast :happydrunks: even if it is an npi :hammer: i hope.


1 question tho . do pi cams requires a new front timing cover? I'm seriously considering a tb/plenum and pi intake as my next upgrade.
 

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realitygt said:
i guess i'll be the first to disprove u guys. i'm gonna make this car fast :happydrunks: even if it is an npi :hammer: i hope.


1 question tho . do pi cams requires a new front timing cover? I'm seriously considering a tb/plenum and pi intake as my next upgrade.


if you remove the front timing cover you need new gaskets...but no you dont need a new cover.

Skip the TB Plenum dude.

You go ahead and try and disprove us...unless your launching with slicks at like 5k cutting amazing 60 foots, your not gonna do anything special.

The fact is, its very hard to get these cars into the 13s without pi parts...

with gears, pi intake, bolt ons, and good driving you can touch 13s...but your talking consistent mid-high 13s...

If you get slicks/ indestructable axles you could probably launch the shit out of the car and hit 13s with little power but that kind of defeats the purpose of it being a "street car"

These cars dont make any power without pi parts


Long tubes are a big help though

4.10s, Pi intake, o/r h, long tubes, tune and you should be in the 13s...probably not mids tho
 

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I made high 13's on a bone stock auto and NPI motor, no pi parts involved, on street tires. So good luck, because it takes alot of time to learn the car and how to drive it correctly. Like justin said, it won't be anything special, 13's are now far from fast, fast for me is 10 second cars, like my drag car. 12's is a decently fast street car, contrary to what my dad believes, 13's are slow nowadays. you'll do all the stuff, just like me, to have a consistent high 13 second car on all these bolt ons and all that crap, but you'll be doing all the vain, as we 5.0 people will be doing that with a gear and some tire under the car, with stock exhaust and everything lol.. I know plenty of stock 5.0s with a gear and they will hang with my car easily, and i have longtubes and the whole deal. You are thinking EXACTLY like i though, disprove everyone, be a hero.. yea that light only lasts so long when you are done "disproving" and decide to actually go fast, and your quickly hit with the sad reality you have to spend at the least a 1000 dollars to go any faster in your car, otherwise your stuck where you are.
 

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I made high 13's on a bone stock auto and NPI motor, no pi parts involved, on street tires. So good luck, because it takes alot of time to learn the car and how to drive it correctly. Like justin said, it won't be anything special, 13's are now far from fast, fast for me is 10 second cars, like my drag car. 12's is a decently fast street car, contrary to what my dad believes, 13's are slow nowadays. you'll do all the stuff, just like me, to have a consistent high 13 second car on all these bolt ons and all that crap, but you'll be doing all the vain, as we 5.0 people will be doing that with a gear and some tire under the car, with stock exhaust and everything lol.. I know plenty of stock 5.0s with a gear and they will hang with my car easily, and i have longtubes and the whole deal. You are thinking EXACTLY like i though, disprove everyone, be a hero.. yea that light only lasts so long when you are done "disproving" and decide to actually go fast, and your quickly hit with the sad reality you have to spend at the least a 1000 dollars to go any faster in your car, otherwise your stuck where you are.

you had pi intake didnt you?
 

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justinschmidt1 said:
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I made high 13's on a bone stock auto and NPI motor, no pi parts involved, on street tires. So good luck, because it takes alot of time to learn the car and how to drive it correctly. Like justin said, it won't be anything special, 13's are now far from fast, fast for me is 10 second cars, like my drag car. 12's is a decently fast street car, contrary to what my dad believes, 13's are slow nowadays. you'll do all the stuff, just like me, to have a consistent high 13 second car on all these bolt ons and all that crap, but you'll be doing all the vain, as we 5.0 people will be doing that with a gear and some tire under the car, with stock exhaust and everything lol.. I know plenty of stock 5.0s with a gear and they will hang with my car easily, and i have longtubes and the whole deal. You are thinking EXACTLY like i though, disprove everyone, be a hero.. yea that light only lasts so long when you are done "disproving" and decide to actually go fast, and your quickly hit with the sad reality you have to spend at the least a 1000 dollars to go any faster in your car, otherwise your stuck where you are.

you had pi intake didnt you?

nope, bone stock NPI motor
 

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V said:
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V said:
I made high 13's on a bone stock auto and NPI motor, no pi parts involved, on street tires. So good luck, because it takes alot of time to learn the car and how to drive it correctly. Like justin said, it won't be anything special, 13's are now far from fast, fast for me is 10 second cars, like my drag car. 12's is a decently fast street car, contrary to what my dad believes, 13's are slow nowadays. you'll do all the stuff, just like me, to have a consistent high 13 second car on all these bolt ons and all that crap, but you'll be doing all the vain, as we 5.0 people will be doing that with a gear and some tire under the car, with stock exhaust and everything lol.. I know plenty of stock 5.0s with a gear and they will hang with my car easily, and i have longtubes and the whole deal. You are thinking EXACTLY like i though, disprove everyone, be a hero.. yea that light only lasts so long when you are done "disproving" and decide to actually go fast, and your quickly hit with the sad reality you have to spend at the least a 1000 dollars to go any faster in your car, otherwise your stuck where you are.

you had pi intake didnt you?

nope, bone stock NPI motor

what was the exact numbers?

60, 1/8 time and mph, 1/4 time and mph?
 
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i know what u mean, 13's aren't fast but idk, im just not sure what i'm going to do, cause pretty much anything i do to my car is going to be worthless.

this shit pisses me off man.
 

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justinschmidt1 said:
V said:
justinschmidt1 said:
V said:
I made high 13's on a bone stock auto and NPI motor, no pi parts involved, on street tires. So good luck, because it takes alot of time to learn the car and how to drive it correctly. Like justin said, it won't be anything special, 13's are now far from fast, fast for me is 10 second cars, like my drag car. 12's is a decently fast street car, contrary to what my dad believes, 13's are slow nowadays. you'll do all the stuff, just like me, to have a consistent high 13 second car on all these bolt ons and all that crap, but you'll be doing all the vain, as we 5.0 people will be doing that with a gear and some tire under the car, with stock exhaust and everything lol.. I know plenty of stock 5.0s with a gear and they will hang with my car easily, and i have longtubes and the whole deal. You are thinking EXACTLY like i though, disprove everyone, be a hero.. yea that light only lasts so long when you are done "disproving" and decide to actually go fast, and your quickly hit with the sad reality you have to spend at the least a 1000 dollars to go any faster in your car, otherwise your stuck where you are.

you had pi intake didnt you?

nope, bone stock NPI motor

what was the exact numbers?

60, 1/8 time and mph, 1/4 time and mph?

oh boy, it's been a while since i ran the car, much less ran that time. I've slowed it down quite a bit since then. If i can find the ticket i'll post up the numbers. I used to have a picture of the ticket.. lemme find it..
 

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i know what u mean, 13's aren't fast but idk, im just not sure what i'm going to do, cause pretty much anything i do to my car is going to be worthless.

this shit pisses me off man.

i love my 98 to absolute death, it's an awesome car, good driver, looks and sounds good. But it just lacks the potential to be something without a whole hell of alot of work that i'm quite sure isn't worth it. If you want proof, talk to dave. He'll tell you
 

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i know what u mean, 13's aren't fast but idk, im just not sure what i'm going to do, cause pretty much anything i do to my car is going to be worthless.

this shit pisses me off man.



yea, it sucks...

but if you listen to people and do things right, you can have a fast car on a decent budget.

Theres nothing you can do thats gonna touch the bang for the buck of a pi swap.

4.10s will wake it a lot too

o.r mid pipe is another good bang for the buck

You really cant gain much power without swapping to pi parts man..trust me...look at my car.


Ive got like every bolt on possible,even a pi intake, and Im running 14.0, high 13s on a good day.

With pi cams and pi heads I would be so much faster its not even funny.

Im with you v...
I love my 96 but its just a bad platform to start with if you dont want to spend money andtime to make it fast.
 

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Thats why i've made the move to 5.0s. Already bought the car, fixing it up and as soon as i do i'll be rolling along with a 12 second car with less money in it then my car now :dunno:
 

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DFG Pimpin ran a 13.6 on his 96 GT with full exhaust, bigs and littles, and a cold air intake plus a little weight reduction (no seats, spare, etc.). Pretty impressive for a crappy 2v.
 

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