302 S/C or 347 S/C
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modo
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LAFENATU said:
i have seen my fair share of broken 351 blocks
Steven said:
You keep speaking as if these things are junk which they are not. Plenty of people have gone consistently fast on stock blocks. Im sure there are less then 5 people on this site that will ever make enough power to split a stock block. To be honest most of the get hurt because of a crappy tune rattling the motor or being over spun well past where they should have been run in the first place. My stock short block went consistant low 11s, high 10s and was blown for at least 5 years. 126-128 mph with the weight of the car is well over 550 rwhp. Why didn't mine break if they are made of butter?
modo
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LAFENATU said:
dude i saw mustangs in the early 90s with stock short blocks and d0oe heads take consistent 300+ hits and go deep into the 9s all day. my block is in one piece because i know what im doing tune wise, and it had a good dampener on it.
Your missing my point. There are no reasonable and ethical advantages to a forged assembly in a factory 5.0 block. You can make 5-6 on factory bottom ends, and as long as its tuned correctly, yes they will last. But what I'm referring to is the fact that most people assume that a "stroker" or forged 5.0 will make gobs of power reliably, when in reality all it does is make the guts stronger then the skin. These blocks fall apart, alot, and I don't see why anyone could honestly think its a good idea to stuff a 2000 dollar stroker kit in one of these flaky blocks. I know of a few stock bottom end racers here that do put down crazy nasty numbers on them, and race the hell out of them. One puts down 800 on pump gas, (turbo car). It's a grenade, but he drove it all the time, ran low 5's in the 1/8th. I've seen what they can do, but obviously if a stock bottom end can take it, why bother with expensive parts? Oliver rods, forged and H beams versus I beams. It's all bull shit, as the hp rating is way above what any respectable intelligent being would expect there blocks to last to.
Oh and to pull times out and point and scream at them is worthless. You can make a car go deep 9's with low power compared to most. I really don't think the cars going low 9's is a viable argument to the current discussion, granted that is quick
Oh and to pull times out and point and scream at them is worthless. You can make a car go deep 9's with low power compared to most. I really don't think the cars going low 9's is a viable argument to the current discussion, granted that is quick
modo
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Steven said:Your missing my point. There are no reasonable and ethical advantages to a forged assembly in a factory 5.0 block. You can make 5-6 on factory bottom ends, and as long as its tuned correctly, yes they will last. But what I'm referring to is the fact that most people assume that a "stroker" or forged 5.0 will make gobs of power reliably, when in reality all it does is make the guts stronger then the skin. These blocks fall apart, alot, and I don't see why anyone could honestly think its a good idea to stuff a 2000 dollar stroker kit in one of these flaky blocks. I know of a few stock bottom end racers here that do put down crazy nasty numbers on them, and race the hell out of them. One puts down 800 on pump gas, (turbo car). It's a grenade, but he drove it all the time, ran low 5's in the 1/8th. I've seen what they can do, but obviously if a stock bottom end can take it, why bother with expensive parts? Oliver rods, forged and H beams versus I beams. It's all bull ****, as the hp rating is way above what any respectable intelligent being would expect there blocks to last to.
Oh and to pull times out and point and scream at them is worthless. You can make a car go deep 9's with low power compared to most. I really don't think the cars going low 9's is a viable argument to the current discussion, granted that is quick
i would never recommend wasting money by putting aftermarket parts in a stock block, there is no need... if you look i always said "stock shortblock" not stock block with good parts
to go low 9s you need to be going real close if not over 140 mph. that takes more then 500 hp in a mustang, even a gutted one
