lowering springs

[SVTGizzi]

i just bought an eibach pro-kit for my car. the suspension right now is completely stock. i have a feeling im going to have to replace the struts on the front because it has 87,000 miles and they will most likely be worn out. would you guys reccomend aftermarket struts or stock replacements if im driving on crappy michigan roads and all im really concerned about is the car being lower.

also, same question about the rear quadshocks; i dont want my rear end to sag if i have new parts up front.

thanks

 

[OnyxCobra]

Stock struts with lowering springs are not going to ride or handle that great and are going to wear them out pretty quickly. Get aftermarket struts.

 

[ScottyDsntKnow]

Bullitt or Mach 1 shocks/struts won't lower it too much and they'll keep a pretty stock ride. I'd replace all 4 corners though, not just the front.

 

[SRT Handz]

Bullitt or Mach 1 shocks/struts won't lower it too much and they'll keep a pretty stock ride. I'd replace all 4 corners though, not just the front.

Struts/Shock have Nothing to do with Ride Height.....

 

[SVTGizzi]

ive been told that struts for a fox work really well on our cars with lowering springs, anyone have them on your car?

 

[ScottyDsntKnow]

Bullitt or Mach 1 shocks/struts won't lower it too much and they'll keep a pretty stock ride. I'd replace all 4 corners though, not just the front.

Struts/Shock have Nothing to do with Ride Height.....

Doh, I'm a retard. I mean that they'll work with those springs and still retain a stock feel.

 

[Anrev]

Struts/Shock have Nothing to do with Ride Height.....

Thats not entirely true. A shorter strut will compress the spring at full extension more than a taller one. Stang Suspension suggests buying shocks and struts for a FOX when installing lowering springs as it is a shorter shock/strut and will work better with the new ride height of the shorter springs. They also say that the neutral position on the strut, IE where the strut sits when at rest, is lower on the FOX shocks (because of how they are built) than the SN95 struts. And thus the car will sit a little lower with FOX struts. NOT MUCH. Maybe half an inch at most.

I am installing them on mine right now.

 

[OnyxCobra]

I gotta disagree with that. I could compress my struts with my hands, there's no way that's going to hold up the weight of a car to make it sit higher....

 

[Downshift]

I gotta disagree with that. I could compress my struts with my hands, there's no way that's going to hold up the weight of a car to make it sit higher....

Im gonna have to agree there too. Unless they were bottoming completely out I dont see how that could make it sit higher.

 

[Stangbangin]

Struts/Shock have Nothing to do with Ride Height.....

Thats not entirely true. A shorter strut will compress the spring at full extension more than a taller one. Stang Suspension suggests buying shocks and struts for a FOX when installing lowering springs as it is a shorter shock/strut and will work better with the new ride height of the shorter springs. They also say that the neutral position on the strut, IE where the strut sits when at rest, is lower on the FOX shocks (because of how they are built) than the SN95 struts. And thus the car will sit a little lower with FOX struts. NOT MUCH. Maybe half an inch at most.

I am installing them on mine right now.

I was just on the phone with Josh from Stangsuspension.com and he stated" ONly fox body struts will work on a sn95. The shocks will work but have no different ffect since they are relatively the same length. Also neither shocks nor struts have affect on ride height."

 

[mich_666]

shocks and struts dampen the suspension. the spring itself is what sets the ride height...
straight out of my AST study book

 

[Anrev]

So you all are saying that having a front strut with a mounting flange here:
(94-98)

as opposed to a mounting flange here:
(79-83)

Has NO effect on ride height?

You are physically mounting it lower. All shocks/struts settle to the "sweet spot" or resting spot. the springs on the car push up, gravity pulls down. The shock sits at the equalized point between these two. If the shock is mounted lower then that spot is going to be lower. I say it will have a marginal effect on ride height. But it will be there.

 

[Stangbangin]

So you all are saying that having a front strut with a mounting flange here:
(94-98)

as opposed to a mounting flange here:
(79-83)

Has NO effect on ride height?

You are physically mounting it lower. All shocks/struts settle to the "sweet spot" or resting spot. the springs on the car push up, gravity pulls down. The shock sits at the equalized point between these two. If the shock is mounted lower then that spot is going to be lower. I say it will have a marginal effect on ride height. But it will be there.

the weight of the car will just compress it that much more. So yea we are saying that what you think would be a marginal different ould actually be no difference.

 

[OnyxCobra]

Struts do not make a difference in ride height. The only difference is Fox struts have a shorter overall length. SN95 Struts work just fine with lowering springs as they are made to control the car at a lower level, unlike the stock struts.

 

[Downshift]

You can compress the strut fairly easy. You can put all your might and hardly move that spring. When I took suspension my professor who had worked in suspension for 30 years even told us that the shocks and struts do not determine ride height. It also says it in numerous books and even Josh at stangsuspension says the same. It may look like it by the way it bolts up but it does not.

 

[SRT Handz]

My Auto Text Book says the same thing.

Springs support the Weight of the Cars

The point of a Shock is to Push the Tires on the road. A Strut is just a shock that is able to turn and rotate.

I can push down my struts all day long...no way in hell i can compress a spring