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Dude, that totally sucks. I’m sorry to see this. Glad it didn’t all burn down though.

Also, the picture you questioned is the vent line for the transmission, typically it bolts to a bell housing bolt up high to vent case pressure.
it is solid metal on the end and as "alumalite" or something stanmped into it. I am not sure how it would vent if it was but damn I hope the trans is ok... I might be having a friend come by saterday to help pull the motor.
 

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Dang man that sucks! Hopefully the damage is minimal and you can get it sorted quickly.
 
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I further into it and broke off the melted insulation and traced the wires I could see. All the related trans wires are gone, the holley o2 sensor and the harness going to it, Some other factory wiring that is not hard to replace but what really sucks is that it looks like it made its way up the back of the motor/firewall to where the ecu harness comes out. I can see it melted some wires in the harness right at the firewall but its in a location that I can hardly see to diagnose let alone get both hands and a tool or two to do any work on them. Looks like the motor is getting pulled out so I can have enough space and do it right.

So that sucks of course but its one of those things that I have already accepted and I have a friend coming by sat to help me pull it and get it start. But fffffffug man now I get to drain the coolant again, the trans, pull the exhaust and I really didn't want to do all this till I was replacing the motor with the 347 or 408 I have been dreaming of. In good news though if my neighbor had not come by to ask he to look at his garage door opener it could have been really bad. When I got out there I could see open flames under the car and a few more minutes and it might have been really bad. Not sure why the smoke detector in the garage didn't work other than it does not work. The battery is good but the test button does nothing.
 

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Dayum!!! What a set back....im sorry mang! Im glad all is good tho. Its to easy for a small fire to destroy a house, so good thing you caught it fast.
 
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Little tip when it comes fo running wires. Use Heatshield poducts hotrod sleeve or lava sleeve. Youll never have to worry about your car going up in smoke again
 
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Little tip when it comes fo running wires. Use Heatshield poducts hotrod sleeve or lava sleeve. Youll never have to worry about your car going up in smoke again
I have already been looking into that very stuff, anything NEAR the exhaust is getting covered in it. I put a heat shield on the bottom of my trans tunnel a few years ago to help keep the heat from the exhaust out of the interior and it looks like it will need to be wiped off at the very least, but it didn't hurt.
 
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after some thought last night I realized pulling the motor was probably not going to buy me much help. I was hoping with it out that I could possibly save the harness that was in there but after seeing how bad the O2 sensor harness was smoked and reading that between the high current wires for heating it and the sensor wires that its not really suggested to modify/shorten/dick with it and because of that it would all need to be replaced. I can basically cut the old one out and pull the new one through although I know it will not be that easy. So good news is not pulling the motor, bad news is holley is pretty proud of their wiring and will not ship till new years.... Hell I was amazed to see the same system I have now is $500 more.

On the side of the trans the reverse lock out harness and the housing it plugs into look to be one piece now. I was trying to get ahold of the place I got it from but my phone kept sending him straight to voice mail and he was busy when I called.
 
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the rebuild began with some parts ordered. A new speed sensor, reverse switch and some heat/fire shielding.

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As I started to fix the wiring I came across this new wire connection method that I have been seeing vids on for a while and came across this kit last summer at a hot rod show. I got the kit and completely forgot about it till today and decided to give it a try. Its a piece of heat shrink that has solder in the middle as well as glue on the ends to seal it. You put the piece/connector on one of your wires and then twist the wires together, slide it back over the splice and then use a heat gun to melt the solder and the glue/heat shrink all at the same time.

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It definitely made it easer/faster by doing them all at the same time but my only complaint is the insulation seems a bit thin. I am use to the marine grade/thick stuff and this might be ok but I am still going to put a piece of tape on each one.

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damn I open this up for the first time in over a year and the last thing it shows is the wire that caught fire. The speeds sense and trans solenoid lock out wires had to go up/over the exhaust and I didn't take the time to properly secure them. The fell, that techflex that looks so nice caught fire and it ended up making a small enough fire to take out the holley ECU wiring but not bad enough to burn to the ground or take the house with it so I was lucky.

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I started to get into it back in feb when it happened but I just lost interest when I realized how much I had to do to get it back working. After walking past it all year I miss it and decided to start chipping away at it to fix the problems and make it better than before. I took the time to move the offending wires so that they do not cross the exhaust this time, then I double wrapped them this time in fiberglass heat shield as well as aluminized fire shield for any wire anywhere near the exhaust
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to ensure that they to not move I have been hard mounting them every 10-12 inches
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I have a few more things outside the car to connect before I move inside which I really dread honestly. I am going to move the holley ecu as I was never really happy with where I put it and move it up to the pass airbag location. Then I just need to remember what wires were connected where inside, moved, ect.

If you ever get into wiring your own ecu, use the factory manuals and be sure to make very good notes on what wires you moved, where you connected, wire colors and where they went to. These notes were great to help me remember what I had changed...

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Man makes me sad seeing that stuff . Glad you got the drive to get back to it and fix the car
 
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well enough tears, time to get back into it. I got a little frustrated after the fire, then I had some personal health issues that just brought everything to a stop. It took about 6 months till I started to get a handle on them, then my mom takes a fall and needs extra help. While dad and I are taking care of her suddenly we discover he has A-fib(heart shit) and he was in the hospital 2 times while they evaluated if he needed a pacemaker. He got away with a change of meds, and about the time he and mom is getting better the dog trips going up the basement stairs(completely unfinished raw wood) and after hearing what sounded like a drum going down the stairs I looked down to see him going head over tail tumbling down. We thought he was going to need surgery but he was also able to avoid the knife and has now healed.
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So during this time I have not touched the car, the laser, the cnc as it has just been one thing after another leading to this.
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I started by cleaning the garage and was amazed that I found all my 10mm bits! Swept booth under the car, and underneath the bottom of the car to get the webs out of it and today I finally slid under it for the first time(just in time for the heatwave to hit us). I thought I had finished all the wiring under it and was happy to see that it looks like I did. I did find that there was a small burn hole in the airline for the drivers front airbag but I happened to have found 12 foot of 1/4" hose the day before so I started with that today. The air ride controller is on the top of this pic, I think I am going to make a custom plate for it...
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but after about 90 mins I was hot as heck, and I spent the last 30 mins leaning over to work on this area behind the drivers seat. I have two discs in my lower back that are compressed and because of this I can't work leaning over like that for long. I am going to try and do a little here and there each day.
 
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yea, I spoke too soon. I am waiting on some tools and amazon it taking forever with that computer crash. While I was waiting one morning dad pulls me aside and says he thinks he is having a heart attack as his a-fib had fired back up. So I dropped him off at the ER so I could take care of mom and they ended up keeping him overnight and putting in a pacemaker. Now he is on extremely light duty for the next two weeks where he can't drive, isn't supposed to lift his arms over his head or carry more than a gallon of milk so I don't see myself getting much done in that time. I did make a new badge for the air ride controller.
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Didn't look bad before but if you can customize it, why not?
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Wiring master. Super tidy and everything labelled as well . That sucks about your dad , hopefully he’s outta there soon.
 

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Definitely needs to be monitored for a bit. Hope all goes well for you and him.

What's the wire kit called and where did you happen to find it?
 
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The wiring I do all myself. I actually cringe a little bit at that pic but there was just 10 lbs of wire crap to put in a small space.
 

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The wiring I do all myself. I actually cringe a little bit at that pic but there was just 10 lbs of wire crap to put in a small space.
I was asking about the wiring kit for the connectors. I've never seen that before and thought it be nice to have around just in case.
 

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