whats the difference

[voidfinger]

Hey guys whats the difference between the vortec and novi/paxton or whatever? Just give me the low down on them lol.

 

[Jrgunn5150]

Same parent company, completely different head untis and kits

 

[voidfinger]

ok, well please go into deeper stuff... which is better ... what is good for what ... examples? anything else?

 

[jfor441]

ok, well please go into deeper stuff... which is better ... what is good for what ... examples? anything else?

They are both good examples of centrifugal superchargers. I think it boils down to more of a personal preference. It also depends on what kind of power you are wanting to make and how much money you want to spend.

 

[voidfinger]

as in? one is cheaper than the other? one makes more power than the other?

 

[jfor441]

as in? one is cheaper than the other? one makes more power than the other?

Best thing I can recommend is going to each manufacturers website and read up on each one. Then you will also find the different models. I don't know all the differences off the top of my head. Modularpowerhouse.com sells a lot of Vortech's. Look on their forums for people that have them.

 

[jfor441]

I also think you will get a better response in the forced induction/tuning room also.

 

[voidfinger]

lol but the same people are in there too lol.

 

[jfor441]

I know that, but you are liable to get some folks who don't frequent the 4.6 2V forum that look in there

 

[Jrgunn5150]

The step up ration, housing, impeeller are all different on the Novi. The Novi2200 is happy making anywhere from 10-about 28 psi, whereas the Vrotech will max out at about 16.

The vortech is around 2500 bucks for a tuner kit, whereas the Novi is 2500 for just the headunit.

 

[voidfinger]

The step up ration, housing, impeeller are all different on the Novi. The Novi2200 is happy making anywhere from 10-about 28 psi, whereas the Vrotech will max out at about 16.

The vortech is around 2500 bucks for a tuner kit, whereas the Novi is 2500 for just the headunit.

so the novi is gonna be more expensive huh.

 

[Jrgunn5150]

Alot more, and for most people, they don't need what it can do. I didn't, I just love how well it works, but price is the reason you don't see alot of Novi's.

 

[voidfinger]

a guy in my car club has a 99/00 gt with some blower cams and a 2000. I saw kits for the vortec for like 4000k with cooler and the novi for like 4300 with intercooler... so is it only like 300 or so more???

 

[jfor441]

Just depends on where you look and who has a sale going on.

 

[Jrgunn5150]

Yeah, if you want Vortecs super fancy, highly unnecessary aftercooler, it nearly doubles the price of your kit.

 

[voidfinger]

I kinda like the aftercooler lol. Why do you say its highly unnecessary though? I've always been told that the charge needs to be cooled after its compressed not before... so unless my thinking is flawed which it very well may be lol. Plus it looks niffty.

 

[Jrgunn5150]

Normal air to air intercoolers cool the charge afterwards too.

At any rate, unless you are pushing the envelope, you don't need any type of cooler. Stock compression and 10-12 PSI is just fine. I drove all over the damn desert and up and down the Rockies with 10 psi on crappier California oxygenated fuel and never once pinged or knocked, without an intercooler, and with ambient temps sometimes pushing 120 degrees. Also, that was at 10.5:1 compression. You don't need the aftercooler, or any intercooler. People blather on about safety and crap, but in reality, most of them are sold to people who think they look cool.

Vortechs aftercooler takes up a bunch of space, makes the install an hour or so longer, nearly doubles the price of the kit, and doesn't do anything for a street guy. So if the benefits of a little peace of mind and a cool look out weigh the cons, then there you go.

 

[voidfinger]

well you can't argue that it gives more power though. I've seen a dyno graph when my budy with the 97 cobra got the after cooler put on. and he had it dynoed like a month before without the cooler. Picked up quite a bit though.

 

[Jrgunn5150]

well you can't argue that it gives more power though. I've seen a dyno graph when my budy with the 97 cobra got the after cooler put on. and he had it dynoed like a month before without the cooler. Picked up quite a bit though.

Yeah you can crank the timing some and get a little power out of it, your call really. For me, 500 rwhp, 530 rwhp, what's the difference, lol

 

[voidfinger]

lol k