Take the oil pan off and look at the cylinders, best you can from the bottom.
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Should be pretty easy... the truck pans don't have windage trays. Just looking for marring on the cylinder walls, was going to ask if he could get a video of the engine spinning over...
Check on the steel pan conversion for the gen 3. Those are plastic pans. I know the gen 2’s have a steel pan and the pan gasket has the windage tray built in to it.
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PBH has one that uses a Gen 1 / Gen 2 pan... need to check and see how much the Moroso unit is.
Any reason you’re specifically wanting the Moroso? The stock setup works great and has plenty of clearance
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Not really seeking it out, but I believe it holds more oil and also clears. PBH is $359 so if it’s similar pricing?
Standard capacity on the stock pan is like 9.75 quarts to be full, I just wanted you to be aware of that. There were also some header clearance problems with the big aftermarket pans at one point in time. Just things to think about.
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Wish me luck…
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My companies CFO loaned me his engine hoist… just need to get it unloaded in the garage!
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Sooooooooooo....
Can the Coyote guys help me start a short list of what needs to be changed to convert this F-150 Coyote to Mustang spec?
Can the Coyote guys help me start a short list of what needs to be changed to convert this F-150 Coyote to Mustang spec?
Are you keeping gen 3 heads and cams?
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Yes, planned on swapping the intake camshafts for Mustang. Need to research what phasers etc are needed.
Quick question what length bolts to attach to engine stand? I know they are 10mm x 1.5 but can't find anything about length.
I really don’t know the length. I don’t have a stand by me to measure the bracket.
Are there differences between mustang and f150 cams in the gen 3? I need to do more research. But if it’s the same as gen 2, you’ll need mustang specific cams, phasers, and phaser solenoids.
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I believe exhaust cam is the same, intake cam is different.
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So, is it in yet?
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I can confirm its in.... the garage.
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UPDATE:
Power by the Hour confirmed the GEN 2 pump with boundary gears can be used, which allows a GEN 2 pick up and oil pan to be used.
Tasca:
Gen 2 Oil Pan - $124.88
Gen 2 Pickup - $26.21
Gen 2 Windage Gasket - $56.62
Gen 2 Oil Pump - $171.00
Total: $378.71
PBH:
Oil Pan Conversion - $359.99
Gen 3 Oil Pump - $78.54
Total: $438.53
Should save about $60 to use the GEN 2 stuff.
Edit: They also said the Mustang intake cams in their opinion aren't worth it, and once tuned the GEN 3 F-150 engines run just as hard as the Mustangs. However, they did recommend phaser replacement, so at that point at $124/each might as well change the cams as well?
Power by the Hour confirmed the GEN 2 pump with boundary gears can be used, which allows a GEN 2 pick up and oil pan to be used.
Tasca:
Gen 2 Oil Pan - $124.88
Gen 2 Pickup - $26.21
Gen 2 Windage Gasket - $56.62
Gen 2 Oil Pump - $171.00
Total: $378.71
PBH:
Oil Pan Conversion - $359.99
Gen 3 Oil Pump - $78.54
Total: $438.53
Should save about $60 to use the GEN 2 stuff.
Edit: They also said the Mustang intake cams in their opinion aren't worth it, and once tuned the GEN 3 F-150 engines run just as hard as the Mustangs. However, they did recommend phaser replacement, so at that point at $124/each might as well change the cams as well?
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That’s good info. I didn’t find anything definitive on the oil pump. Don’t forget the gen 2 oil filter adapter. Apparently the gen 3 has an oil pressure bypass in there and should be swapped.
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I’m going to have to spend this winter doing a bunch of research. Apparently I’m going to have to swap all cams with new Mustang phasers in order to run the FRPP control pack. Good thing this isn’t a race to finish.
