Arguments about N/A vs. Boost

[stangman281v8]

I think all three engine bays look fine. Granted the first set up is not clean as the other two, but with a little TLC I think It would look pretty bad ass. To agree with someone's point each person sets up there Mustang how they want to set it up, why hate.

Anyways, my advice on modding the vehicle is to save up and either get a Mach/Cobra motor or just save up for a Mach 1/Cobra all together. I know this might be the easist solution, but that is the route I am going with my 97 2v.

 

[330CubeGt]

The fuel system and tune will most likely put you over 1500.

Mine was vortec'd previously so theres a 255 intank, pan is tapped, 03 Cobra injectors are $120 ish and tune's Free

I don't know where to find is the bracket for a 4V.... Now you got my mind all twisted idk what ill do lol was pretty set on nitrous but if i can get a used head unit for cheap it might be worth it to hold off and do it your way...

 

[justinschmidt1]

Mine was vortec'd previously so theres a 255 intank, pan is tapped, 03 Cobra injectors are $120 ish and tune's Free

I don't know where to find is the bracket for a 4V.... Now you got my mind all twisted idk what ill do lol was pretty set on nitrous but if i can get a used head unit for cheap it might be worth it to hold off and do it your way...

you mean this?
http://www.superchargersonline.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=5353

Key Chains took off huh, lol..im wanting to be self employed as well but who knows where that will go. Gona keep buying selling making parts for our cars so i can make decent money on the side untill then...

hahaha, hell no. Stock market.

 

[Ferocious]

Just giving you a hard time, we were all just like you at your age. Cars can be worse then drugs.
And why so much for the car are they hard to come by where your at?
I just picked up my 97 Cobra with 84k Miles on it for $4500 bucks a few months ago.

Yeah i get that. And tell me about it, every since i got this thing i've spent so much time and money on it.
I've been slowing things down recently and save half my money for other useless things i wanna buy or just save it so i don't blow all i have on the car.

And its not that theyre hard to come by, but finding one in good condition here seems highly impossible. I shopped around for about a year before purchasing this car.
I was set on getting a v6 new edge but everyone on craigslist, autotrader, local dealers, etc had beat up pieces of junk. I figured i'd spend the extra money on buying a stang that was properly taken car of and wasnt abused or beaten on. (Not to mention i got the gt as opposed to new edge v6).

And the car had 100,xxx miles when i first bought it.

 

[5.0kid]

back to your original topic...

i have a 5.0, so a little different than your story. Same thing I did though, figure out the benefits of na vs blower. I decided to go the na route when i was 18-19. built my first motor for it actually after doing the HCI and seeing how much my engine needed to be replaced...long story short, stupid mistake=blew new motor. anyway, i decided when i was 19 that i wanted a badass 347 that would make a good amount of na power...well i kinda wish i had gone to a blower set up at this point. i would have made more overall power with a 2k dollar blower set up and a stock rebuild of 1k (had most of the other efi parts needed too) than i will make with the 347 that i have spent over 4k on...and took much longer time than putting a blower on and getting it tuned...

 

[twovalveterror]

ferocious, why are you so set on a certain amount of horse power? what is the fastest car you have driven? if I were in your shoes, I would mod it as my budget allowed. getting basic bolt ons for the most part, saving up for a pi swap. you will have tons of fun with the car like this. you may not have numbers to brag about, but it's cost effective and a blast to drive, and you don't have to worry about getting in a car that's out of your league.

if you take the time to stockpile all the parts of a blower, instead of buying parts and throwing them on as money allows, the car loses a little bit of fun (in my eyes). not to mention that boosting your only car is a dangerous idea. boost can be made safe, but usually not cheaply, and the risk is always there on a boosted set up. if you have no backup plan, playing the lottery with your motor may not be the best idea. saving for a new daily driver may make more sense.

you can have it fast. you can have it cheap. you can have it done right. pick any two.

not trying to preach, just giving you the view from my slightly more experienced eyes.

also, not to rekindle a fire that has already settled (I'm going to anyways) I know of at least one local 2v that is far from radical, it has weight reduction and a spectacular chassis but a "mild" (for racing anyways) motor, last I saw it was running tens.

ps. there is no greater sound, than a cammed V8.

hope all this helps you come to a decision.
-Jake.

 

[Musturd]

That's what I did when I was young did mods as I could afford first mod being gears Cus it's best bang for ur buck. Did them with my friends dad on a Sunday after going to the track and running 14.7 my first time out being pissed right off .

 

[ivan12]

You cant get a new vortech kit for 3 grand....

$3,500 shipped to your door from AM with a 6% discount you can get almost anywhere.

 

[lilj4u2njoy]

$3,500 shipped to your door from AM with a 6% discount you can get almost anywhere.

Where do u get this 6% discount you speak of, not to change the subject lol

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[97stanger]

bottom line is everybody has their preferred opinion on making power, its your money, your time, do what you want. We can all agree that it is expensive to build a high hp n/a motor, and boost will be cheaper. Go for a drive in both n/a, turbo, supercharged cars and see what you like.

Maybe duffy would have been done his car 7 years ago if he just went supercharged
j/k duff!

 

[pingaloca25]

good luck getting to 280hp on 87 octane..


i have every bolt on you can have plus a 93 octane tune and only made 267hp/300tq

 

[SRT Handz]

$3,500 shipped to your door from AM with a 6% discount you can get almost anywhere.

for a non innercooled kit......

 

[97stanger]

For 300 to 400 hp your really not spinning the blower super crazy to absolutely need an ic imo

 

[mygreengt]

when i had my auto 98 gt, i got 4.10 gears and that made the car a little more fun..

just a thought.

 

[forcefedhatch]

I just turboed mine because it was an extra car.. And my ultimate goal.. It was totaled and fixed for that particular reason, but if it was my only car.... No way.. Gears, intake, basic shit.. Till I got a daily.. Then under the knife she would go!


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[SRT Handz]

Post a link where you can buy a vortech kit for that price Justin. I bet you can't. Plus include the price for the injectors, fuel pump, MAF and then let's see what the price is.

I am tired of all this talk about "$3000 supercharger kits" when they don't exist.

 

[justinschmidt1]

Post a link where you can buy a vortech kit for that price Justin. I bet you can't. Plus include the price for the injectors, fuel pump, MAF and then let's see what the price is.

I am tired of all this talk about "$3000 supercharger kits" when they don't exist.

Really?

Ive already posted the link in this thread once but here it is again, ...http://www.superchargersonline.com/...506_1105_1106_1180_1349_1351&products_id=6796

A tuner kit doesnt come with injectors or fuel pump....thats the whole point, you get your own injectors, fuel pump and tune since usually the kits include crap like FMUs, trex pumps, and a generic tune.


Obviously you will some more money on injectors, fuel pump and maf...I think I paid like 400 bucks total for my walbro pump, 42 lb injectors and a 90 mm LMAF brand new a while back.

Still a lot cheaper than that KB kit.

Its EXTREMELY easy to put a full vortech kit together for under 3k if you buy the head unit used and evertyhing else new which is what I did.

I think I spend 1600 or so but I also sent my blower back to vortech for a full rebuild and SI upgrade before I put it on the car. I already had the pump, injectors and MAF from my previous setup.

 

[SRT Handz]

So your posting a small part of the supercharger equation.... And it doesn't even have a Innercooler.

Don't posting these Tuner kit numbers without talking about just pretty much buying a head unit and a bracket. You keep mentioning these 3,000 numbers and noobs see it thinking a blower set up
Costs 3 grand and it doesn't in reality.

 

[justinschmidt1]

So your posting a small part of the supercharger equation.... And it doesn't even have a Innercooler.

Don't posting these Tuner kit numbers without talking about just pretty much buying a head unit and a bracket. You keep mentioning these 3,000 numbers and noobs see it thinking a blower set up
Costs 3 grand and it doesn't in reality.

I said it was cheap USED. Key point, USED. You can easily have a used vortech kit on the car and running for less than 3k....ive seen people piece together used vortech kits and have cars running for less than 2k, which is very doable if you buy everything used.

You dont need an intercooler to run a vortech blower at less than 10 PSI. They are extremely efficient and do not create anywhere near the heat of a PD blower.

The hell are you talking about, thats an entire kit minus the horrible bandaid fuel system they include that I wouldnt even run. You can put together injectors, pump, and MAF for like 400 bucks and have a complete kit for 3300 dollars, NEW.

Stop posting irrelevant crap just because you want to feel better about spending 6k on your setup. You got a sick setup but it cost more in the long run, end of story.

Obviously you didnt like the way the vortech setup looked and didnt want to buy used so you paid extra. Nothing wrong with that but for people on a budget, used vortech setups are cheap.

Even if I bought a brand new vortech kit, injectors, maf, pump, tune, front mount intercooler,power pipe, legit bypass valve, 8 rib setup, it would still probably cost less than 4500 dollars which is pretty much all you can do with a vortech setup.

 

[Brian95SVT]

Isn't there a thread out there showing you part & price & link to get said parts to build your own vortech kit for like $1,000 bucks? Just saying it's possible.