Cobra Brake swap??

[voidfinger]

You could scuff them up with a scotch brite in a drill though. Should bust the glaze if it's there.

that works too, i just used some hi-grit sandpaper to clean up the rotors a little and then sanded down the pads a little as well.

so for now if the pads are worn i can just sand them down? The dude said the rotors needed to be turned though..... this is adding up fast...

O by the way, one question... are the cobra brake calipers and rotors the same from 96-04??? i saw some on a 03 today and they looked rocken

if the pads are worn but not too bad, then yes, you can sand them down a little to get them even and remove any deposits left on them. find out why the rotors need to be turned. if they are badly warpped or have very deep grooves, i would say take them to autozone or some ma-and-pa brake shop to have them turned. if they are lightly warpped or have some very shallow surface scratches, you can "turn" them yourself at home with some sand paper. what i did was put them on the hub and lock them down with the wheel nut, and rotate them while pressing the sandpaper on one side then the other. worked fine to remove the light warpping i had and removed the glazzing off the rotors.

and no, the cobra brakes are a little different thru the years. 96-98 are identical, 99/01 cobra and 01 bullitt calipers are the same, 03/04 cobra and mach1 calipers are the same, except the cobra and non cobra (mach1, bullitt) calipers have different "emblems" on them.

the 03/04 units are the best, followed by the 99/01 units and then by the 96-98 units. 03/04 units have dual pistons that are different sizes that increase stopping power. 99/01 units are twin piston calipers. the 96-98 are also twin piston calipers, but i cannot recall the main difference between these and the rest. ALL the 13" brake kits are better than the stock 94-98 GT brakes.

96-04 cobra, bullitt, and mach1 rotors are the same size and are interchangeable. 03/04 cobras had stock brembo rotors tho, if i remember correctly.

so the newwer ones are different???? wow that sucks. I was looking into the rear cobra brake kit and i think they have the newer style......but i guess they stop better than the fronts..

 

[voidfinger]

The differences between the Cobra calipers over the years is the piston sizes...i know the 99+ have larger pistons then the 96-98...not sure of the difference of the 03/04 though.

Do you know the sizes of the 96-98 vs the others???? i'm curious.

 

[reivaxtorres]

The differences between the Cobra calipers over the years is the piston sizes...i know the 99+ have larger pistons then the 96-98...not sure of the difference of the 03/04 though.

yes! good to know i wasnt going crazy. thats the main difference ive heard of between the cobra calipers over the years, along with the newer versions being lighter than the 96/98 versions (not too sure on this one). ive heard that the 96-98 calipers are "twin" piston, the 99/01 calipers are larger "twin piston", and the 03/04 calipers are "dual" (different sized pistons) calipers. still trying to dig up those articles tho

so the newwer ones are different???? wow that sucks. I was looking into the rear cobra brake kit and i think they have the newer style......but i guess they stop better than the fronts..

yeah, they are different, but they are still better than your stock ones, whichever route you go. dont waste your money on getting the 11.65" rear conversion (compared to the stock 10.5"). unless you do a lot of road racing, its not needed and all it does is give you better looks. the rear calipers are the same thoughout the years, from 94-04, on ALL mustangs, whether it be v6, GT, Cobra, Mach1, or Bullitt. in the later years(dont know when it started), they went to an aluminum caliper (or so it looks) thats lighter than the iron/steel calipers they originally used. the difference between the 10.5" set up and the 11.65" set up is the bracket that bolts on to the axle which is were the caliper bolts onto. for the 11.65" kits, this bracket is bigger to support the larger rotor. the caliper bracket (where the caliper slides) is also different, but the GT ones can be used with some very minor modifications

Do you know the sizes of the 96-98 vs the others???? i'm curious.

still looking to find those articles. had some good tech ones that i lost when my motherboard fried on my previous laptop, so its been hard coming by the same info i once had.

 

[voidfinger]

well one thing i like about the uped sized cobra is that it has vent holes in the back and not a solid piece....

 

[DropTopPony]

The differences between the Cobra calipers over the years is the piston sizes...i know the 99+ have larger pistons then the 96-98...not sure of the difference of the 03/04 though.

Do you know the sizes of the 96-98 vs the others???? i'm curious.

i think the 96-98 are 38mm pistons and the 99+ are 42mm

 

[DropTopPony]

and the rear Cobra brakes are the same calipers as the V6 and GT, the difference is in the rotor size and rotor design.

 

[voidfinger]

The differences between the Cobra calipers over the years is the piston sizes...i know the 99+ have larger pistons then the 96-98...not sure of the difference of the 03/04 though.

Do you know the sizes of the 96-98 vs the others???? i'm curious.

i think the 96-98 are 38mm pistons and the 99+ are 42mm

So what does that mean for performance wise??

 

[voidfinger]

and the rear Cobra brakes are the same calipers as the V6 and GT, the difference is in the rotor size and rotor design.

So is there anyway to just swap the rotors then?

 

[Jrgunn5150]

You'd need the Cobra bracket, and dustsheild.

 

[voidfinger]

You'd need the Cobra bracket, and dustsheild.

What is that thing in the pics that looks like a pipe clamp that runs from the axle tube to the caliper??? in the kits they have the "brakets that fit on the end of the axle, the dustshield, the calipers, rotors, and that thing...???" lol sorry for the question... i'm thinking i might be able to rig the thing up also does the factory cobra capilers for the rear have "Cobra" across them like the fronts or no?

 

[Jrgunn5150]

They don't say Cobra, i think the other bracket is the moan bracket. I don't know if you need it or not, I still have GT rear brakes.

 

[voidfinger]

They don't say Cobra, i think the other bracket is the moan bracket. I don't know if you need it or not, I still have GT rear brakes.

I wonder if they are really needed either.... but i really don't like the solid rotor's that the gt's use. Mine has been replaced once because it warped and made the rear end bump like a $2 dollar whore. I like the bigger vented style anyway and it would look way better on my 17X9's

 

[Jrgunn5150]

Baer has a 13" rotor kit for our cars, it's like 300 though

 

[voidfinger]

Baer has a 13" rotor kit for our cars, it's like 300 though

Really don't want the same size in the front and backs... thats asking for back break lock up lol. Got enough of that already. For that kinda money i'm sure i could piece one cobra kit together lol but i guess i'll have to wait.... Got to many problems and not enough time and money right now....trans,dieing motor,soon needing tires, cobra brakes to work on, needing a top.... man this never ends lol.

 

[reivaxtorres]

Baer has a 13" rotor kit for our cars, it's like 300 though

Really don't want the same size in the front and backs... thats asking for back break lock up lol. Got enough of that already. For that kinda money i'm sure i could piece one cobra kit together lol but i guess i'll have to wait.... Got to many problems and not enough time and money right now....trans,dieing motor,soon needing tires, cobra brakes to work on, needing a top.... man this never ends lol.

i think baer has a kit that will let you keep the stock calipers but it will give you a larger bracket to fit a 13" vented rotor for the rear. this is pretty much just to make them look better.

as for that clamp looking thing, it is a moan bracket. not sure what its there for, but i took them off then i had the rear wilwood kit, and i didnt notice anything different.

 

[voidfinger]

o ok cool. I'm thinking of just piecing together the cobra rear deal.... maybe find the stuff on ebay over the next two years lol.

 

[reivaxtorres]

o ok cool. I'm thinking of just piecing together the cobra rear deal.... maybe find the stuff on ebay over the next two years lol.

lol, go thru NAPA to get the brackets, last i checked they carried them and were cheaper than ford. and you have the same time schedule i have for mods, hahaha

 

[Matt94GT]

I have that baer 13" rear, had no problems with back locking up. I did have to grind down my groan brackets for it, might have to do it with the cobra rears as well not sure. I did a write up in the How To's section on here.

 

[voidfinger]

I have that baer 13" rear, had no problems with back locking up. I did have to grind down my groan brackets for it, might have to do it with the cobra rears as well not sure. I did a write up in the How To's section on here.

So whats the difference between the cobra and gt maon bracket??? isn't the cobra just taller ?

 

[voidfinger]

o ok cool. I'm thinking of just piecing together the cobra rear deal.... maybe find the stuff on ebay over the next two years lol.

lol, go thru NAPA to get the brackets, last i checked they carried them and were cheaper than ford. and you have the same time schedule i have for mods, hahaha

So napa carries the brackets huh? that sound interesting.... might could buy everything from them huh