Forbidden Fruit, 6.8L PI 2v v10 build

[Snorky]

Okay went to work today. Cut down the flanges for each header and diced up some tubes to start the primaries. I need to decide what angle I want to cut on the second primary to tie them in

 

[Snorky]

Got to work today on my bad fabrication. Started with shaping the primary.
Then once happy with how it fit up to primary #2. I traced it.


Then cut primary #2
Fit reasonably well. Not great by any stretch of the imagination lol.



Voila, a V10 header. A grinder hides apl of the sin of welding lol. Still working on primary to flange welds to seal it up. I must day, cutting into a brand new set of BBk longtubes was a bit stressful lol. One down, one to go!

 

[Snorky]

 

[07GtS197]

I can’t wait until this thing is running.

 

[Snorky]

I can’t wait until this thing is running.

Me too, I'm nervous about the bottom end LOL. My first time assembling a shortblock and checking bearing clearances., end play, Piston to bore. Gapping rings. Etc. So if it eats itself. Oh well. Try again

 

[96blak54]

Thats some badass bitchin work! Nice job and good idea!

 

[joemomma]

Great work man! And yeah I'd say the pucker factor on cutting a brand new set of headers was pretty tight. Reminds me of when I had to cut my Cobra hood up to get the Aero-(catch/latch?) hood pins in....
So will the add-on primary attach to the main flange or will it "free float"?

 

[ttocs]

I have put countless holes in cars over the years running power wires through the firewall to the point I don't flinch at all when I can't find a factory grommet to run it through. I have never had a problem drilling a hole but the flush mount aerocatch holes in my cf hood made me pucker like never before. Thankfully a good plan and set up made for a perfect hole and a nice tight fit. One of those measure 4x, pray, and cut once because once you start you can't go back.

 

[Snorky]

Great work man! And yeah I'd say the pucker factor on cutting a brand new set of headers was pretty tight. Reminds me of when I had to cut my Cobra hood up to get the Aero-(catch/latch?) hood pins in....
So will the add-on primary attach to the main flange or will it "free float"?

It will free float

 

[Snorky]

So I now have a set of v10 headers.. but i have decided that welding something so it is structurally attached and welding something so it doesn't leak are 2 co.pletely different skill sets. Lol. I may need to get someone more skilled to correct that issue.

 

[96blak54]

Looks good to me!

Send it!

 

[Snorky]

Looks good to me!

Send it!

Can't see it from my house, when you duct tape thr ports and duct tape a vacuum on blow to it. And spray the welds woth windex. it becomes a foam party. >_<

 

[Snorky]

So after getting completely shit on by a local "welder" last night about maybe filling in areas that leak. Fuck that guy. I'll figure it out and get better at welding. This project was probably my 5th time playing with the welder. Have a set of carbide grinding burs. I'll grind/flap wheel it down carefully and play with the welder settings on some. I think I'm having issues eith build up and penetration. After chatting with Garritt last night, I probably need to turn down my feed speed and heat. That way maybe instead of laying caterpillars, I can try a curliecue weave and hopefully I won't burn through. This will be a few week project as things have been very busy lately and I have to setup outside everytime if I'm doing it at home.



Have to say it looks "horrible", but I don't know if I give a shit since I'll only see it from under the car. As long as I can get it to not leak I'll be happy.

This morning I went down to the basement and started working on my fuel lines and fittings. After doing regular regular AN lines in the past and using adjustable steel wrenches and habing them scrstched and apl fucked up looking. I decided I am a man and I can afford the $40 of tools to not make it look like I put it in a wood chipper. My dutch nature told me i was wasting money and grtting the ferrul tool was stupid.

I will say this, PTFE lines with the ferrul was so freaking easy, And the wrenches left no scratches. Shocking I know... at least now i have the tools tonone day redo green cars lines in PTFE. I remember making lines for green car and being absolutely miserable. Somehow on that project a half inch ong piece of wire went complete through the side my shoe and into my foot. My friend watched me take my shoe and sock off. Find it and pull the thing out. It was almost comical how much was in there.


Have the 10 AN to ORB fittings now for the oil filter relocation block on and installed. I need to make 10nAN lines and get a filter adapter block. Now the question here is fo I reuse 10 AN standard line and fittings I have laying around or just Bite the bullet and order 4 ptfe fittings and 10 ft of line?

 

[ttocs]

Sorry to hear you were called out but we need to be honest that it needs to be better, but knowing how welders are he probably laid into you pretty good since they tend to be alpha-assholes from the ones I know. you sound like me with the welder, and ferris buehler with a clarinet, never had one lesson.

They way I have got around this is with practice pieces. We have a local metal place that I get my materials from and I have learned that they have a VERY large box of cut offs and left overs that they send out for recycling and they have always been happy to let me dig though and I don't go crazy by any means but I can normally find something that is about the same thickness to practice on. Once I get the settings right, then I move to the pieces I want to do correctly.

 

[Snorky]

Sorry to hear you were called out but we need to be honest that it needs to be better, but knowing how welders are he probably laid into you pretty good since they tend to be alpha-assholes from the ones I know. you sound like me with the welder, and ferris buehler with a clarinet, never had one lesson.

They way I have got around this is with practice pieces. We have a local metal place that I get my materials from and I have learned that they have a VERY large box of cut offs and left overs that they send out for recycling and they have always been happy to let me dig though and I don't go crazy by any means but I can normally find something that is about the same thickness to practice on. Once I get the settings right, then I move to the pieces I want to do correctly.

It was more of I asked him if he was willing to fill in pin holes for money. He was a complete asshole about it saying "thanks a lot for making it harder for me. I guess this is what I get for procrastinating" which he blew me off for 2 weeks, then I send him pictures of it and he was a total prick about it.

Just his completely shitty attitude,.. this is me trying to think like him.
I'm not motivated to see a customer for a relatively easy job to earn money, then still procrastinate to see the job even though the customer does the cutting and fitment for me which is arguably the harder task.. i still blow him off saying yeah maybe next week maybe next week.. customer decides to start trying to weld it himself so i get mad at said potential customer for starting the job and being asked if I still want to make money. Sends me pictures of it so I tear him apart instead.

I know welders are elitist pricks, but this Fucking guy must be rich if he doesn't want or need work, especially since it's 4 weld junctions and quick cash for someone who does it all the time. Fuck man.. I even made the fixture plate, cut the flanges and pipes for him. Just the attitude.

LoL on the ferris Beuhler reference. That made my day. Btw.. sorry for the rant. I know my welding looks like shit, if I were boasting about it I would fully expect to be called out. I told the guy I didn't know what the hell I was doing and he proceeded with full asshole throttle anyway. Yeah I'm going to weld some scrap and practice a little before I give it another go

 

[ttocs]

yea like I said I have only ever met one welder that was not like that. My welding is not beautiful either but I have surprised myself more often than not with my practice and mess up the test pieces before. The ferris buehler quote always comes to mind when I start, ending with that horrible "song" he played after. This was one of the times I surprised myself when it was done and thought, hey that does not look horrible with a surprised look on my face.

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[Snorky]

yea like I said I have only ever met one welder that was not like that. My welding is not beautiful either but I have surprised myself more often than not with my practice and mess up the test pieces before. The ferris buehler quote always comes to mind when I start, ending with that horrible "song" he played after. This was one of the times I surprised myself when it was done and thought, hey that does not look horrible with a surprised look on my face.

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Damn! That looks respectable. I'll grab some pipe extra pipe and give it a go. Thanks for the motivation

 

[joemomma]

Welding is one of those things that you can get passable at pretty quickly, but it takes a really long time to get good at. I had a semester of it in college, and "passed" the class but I wouldn't want anyone to see my work.

 

[ttocs]

Damn! That looks respectable. I'll grab some pipe extra pipe and give it a go. Thanks for the motivation

thanks I can honestly say when I finished that one I was really surprised but seriously go burn up some scrap and figure out the settings and then just repeat it.

 

[Snorky]

Rolled out of bed this morning and made up some fuel lines over a cup of coffee. Highly satisfying!! So I went off of rough idea measurements from the green car project. I decided I would run about 4.5 feet from the pump and place a fuel filter there. The green car I foolishly eliminated the factory lines and replaced them with AN lines running in the factory routing and put the fuel filter in between the web bars on my subframe connectors. I decided this one would be different. (Also helps running 6an lines instead of a fat 10 an and 8 an lines on the green car.)



Now I need to figure out a pump/hat setup. I see some hat/pump setups on lMR for foxbody mustangs with 6 AN fittings on them. I just don't know if they will fit a 94 tank. I am trying to avoid going down the rabbit hole of the on3 cobra tank/hat, figuring out evap lines and filler necks and breathers and being into it over $1000.

Let me know if anyone has any insight on this one.

https://lmr.com/item/SVE-9407AHP-K/86-97-mustang-sve-6an--high-performance-fuel-hanger

I'm thinking perhaps this 190 pump,

https://lmr.com/item/LRS-9350B/1986-97-Mustang-190-Lph-Walbro-Gss242-Fuel-Pump

Or this 255

https://lmr.com/item/LRS-9350D-K/1986-97-Mustang-Walbro-255-Lhp-High-Pressure-Fuel-Pump-Kit

For the money this setup is also tempting.. incase I ever wanted to do a blower in the future.

https://lmr.com/item/AMV-18638/mustang-aeromotive-340-pump-assembly-18638-86-98

Anyway. Let me know what you think