Hows my set-up?

[94Pro-5.0]

Ok guys, my motor will be running by this weekend, i want to know if theres anything better i could do for more performance

right now i have

308 .060 Block
Micropolished, Chamfered .020 Stock Crankshaft
Stock Connecting Rods
Trick Flow Track Heat Twisted Wedge Heads
ARP Head Studs
Trick Flow 1.6 Roller Rockers
Ford Racing F303 Cam
Ford Racing Roller Bearing Thrust Plate
Ford Racing Double Roller Chain
Fully Port Matched GT40 Lower Intake
GT-40 Tubular Upper Intake
Ford Racing 1" Phenolic Intake Spacer
1" Aluminum Throttle Body Spacer
Trick Flow Chromeoly 6.75" Pushrods
Trick Flow Intake Elbow
BBK Power Plus 65mm Throttle Body
BBK Cold Air Intake
BBK Underdrive Water Pump and Crank Pulleys
BBK Adjustable Fuel Pressure Regulator
75mm MassFlo Mass Air Flow
Denso 24LB Injectors
95 Cobra Distributor
MSD Distributor Cap
MSD 6AL with 6000 Rev Limiter
MSD Blaster TFI Coil
Ford Racing 9mm Ignition Wires
200 amp Alternator
Smog Pump Eliminator Pulley
Oil Separator
Fail-Safe 180 Degree Thermostat
BBK Shorty Equal Length Headers
BBK Off-Road X-Pipe
Flowmaster Cat-Back
Pro-5.0 Shifter
Stock T5 (I need a TKO)
4.10 Gears
Stock Flywheel and Driveshaft


I just bought a BBK Edelbrock 70mm throttle body that will be replacing the 65mm, unless anyone thinks i should sell it and opt for a 75mm...?

I also have a set of equal length Mac headers. Do these perform better than the equal length BBK shorties I have or is there not really a difference?


Is there a better intake for my set-up? Such as a Trick Flow Track Heat, Holley Systemax, or is my ported GT40/ Tubular better?

Do I need bigger injectors, maybe 30lb's?

I'm hoping to make around 400 hp/tq. Is there anything that I don't have that will help me get there?

 

[Mr. OAM]

Do you mean Twisted Wedge heads? And which ones?


Generally, you will be looking at around 300 - 320 HP at the flywheel depending on which heads you got. At the wheels, through a manual, I think loss is 10% (I know less than an automatic, maybe Paul has more accurate info and another guess on power) which would put you at 270 HP. Your cam is on the border of being a low RPM torque - mid RPM torque cam. Its a good set-up for the street and should be a lot of fun and have a good sound.


Steve

 

[Brian95SVT]

300-325 is low... he has more that than.
A buddy of mine made over 300 with just trick flow h/c/i
he's got 3.73 rear gears on a stock tranny....
he has a few other mods but not as much as this guy
you should be closer to 400 than what he said but i don't think you're guna get 400...

 

[MeanGrn Gt]

what do gears have to do with the hp/tq?

like was said you will pry be 300-320. no way youll be over 350

 

[Brian95SVT]

gears helps put more power to the ground...

 

[94Pro-5.0]

The heads are trick flow track heat twisted wedge; the new design. trick flow told me the specs. 2.02 intake, 1.60 exhaust and they flow over 265 cfm throughout the powerband

 

[MeanGrn Gt]

gears helps put more power to the ground...

They dont add hp or tq on the dyno. Most dynos correct the gears because it calculates the rpm vs the wheel speed. If not then how tall of tires would the hp/tq also. All you need to do is make sure the tranny is in the proper gear to give it 1:1

Lower gears "multiply tq" (give it a mechanical advantage) but it is not making the engine produce more hp/tq.

 

[AaRoN]

Gears actually cost you a couple hp..

 

[94Pro-5.0]

ok guys heres my theory. before i had the trick flows and a few other things, i raced on the street several 99-01 cobras, mach 1's, z28's and ss's.

they all have roughly 300-325 hp. i was beat by a couple of the ss's and z28s, but i also beat a couple of them. i have never been beat by a mach or cobra. i usually beat them by quite a few cars. the tech at trick flow told me i should see 60-70 hp with these heads over stock. i dont really see why i wouldnt be at 350+. :dunno:

also, if you guys think i'm not there, what do i need to change in my set-up beside nitrous or blowers to get there?

 

[stang4u2nv]

stroke or 351w otherwise you should be around 320 or so why? well because you need more displacement and by the way your set up has been tested many times before so that's why people tell you it should be around 320 or so...

 

[MeanGrn Gt]

ya they do because it takes a little more hp to turn them.

Ok are we talking fwhp or rwhp? no way u are at 350+rwhp. Do u really think you stang was making 290 rwhp before the heads?

All u have to do is look @ other hci combos and then you will realize you would be lucky to get 320, pry closer to 300.

Put it on the dyno and u will see. Your motor is a big air pump and there are only so many things you can do. That is why a lot of people put blowers on instead of hci because you will get more out of a blower than an hci

 

[Brian95SVT]

What about HCI + blower?!?! hahahahahahhaha

 

[Passenger]

Gears actually cost you a couple hp..

Yep. You'll see a decrease in power with a steeper gear, doesn't mean anything though.
I'd ditch that F303 cam and get something else, seriously.

I'd guess around 330whp or so.

 

[Brian95SVT]

Idk, looking at it again it would say 320-340
No more though.
I know he breaks 300 though. Easy.

 

[MeanGrn Gt]

Seriously u will be lucky to see 300rwhp with an h/c/i. Its just a fact. Look @ everyone else's #'s and you will realize this. You could get a custom cam to make a little more hp etc but still 350 is asking way too much.

 

[Brian95SVT]

I know for a FACT he will get 300. My friend puts a little over 300 with almost the same setup... and it's not tuned.

 

[MeanGrn Gt]

I know for a FACT he will get 300. My friend puts a little over 300 with almost the same setup... and it's not tuned.

running a complete hci w/o a tune... sounds like a smart guy

 

[94Pro-5.0]

in the near future i do plan to swap to fox accessories. when i do that i will be putting in a Trick Flow stage II, which is significantly larger than mine now; .512/.512 - .548/.564 i think it is, so that should help a lot.

I wasnt very clear in my post, but now i'm thinking i have roughly 380ish at the flywwheel and 330ish at the wheels.

near the end of summer i hope to be putting in a stroked 69 windsor block, with the gt40 intake and same heads. i already have the block.


i was soooooo close to building this motor to be a 347 stroker, but decided my stock block isnt strong enough, and since i have a windsor i would just save my time and money on the 302 and save for the windsor

 

[MeanGrn Gt]

Instead of sticking in a tf stage 2 if you want the most out of it get in touch with ed curtis @fti or jay allen @camshaft innovations and tell them your combo and they will make u a cam that will get the most out of it. i think fti is like 325 for a custom grind so it is pry not that much more than the stage II cam

Just get it running stick it on the dyno and you will see what you got.

 

[Brian95SVT]

I know for a FACT he will get 300. My friend puts a little over 300 with almost the same setup... and it's not tuned.

running a complete hci w/o a tune... sounds like a smart guy

Uh just because he doesn't have the money to get a tune YET doesn't mean shit. And actually he is a very intelligent guy thanks, he's one of my best friends. *not saying that's why he is smart but he is*
Plus, he is getting a tune really soon anyways.